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Pokemon Trial Draft Now Open -- Winner: Specterace

Discussion in 'Archive: Census and Games' started by The_Chim, Feb 29, 2008.

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  1. Kyptastic

    Kyptastic VIP star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    To an extent, but Kingdra isn't based around flying as Zapdos is. It's much more comfortable staying in one spot than Zapdos, which has to move around to be effective.

    Sorry on the Dragonbreath issue, but I recalled having it on my Kingdra. I must have taught it to it nearly every time I had the tm.
     
  2. MandaloreYak

    MandaloreYak Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Arcanine vs. Cloyster
    Gotta disagree here. In the Mt. Moon interior it'll be fairly dark, which is the first minus against arcanine since its lit attacks will give away its position very quickly. Although it is also faster, this is a pretty enclosed area, which favors cloyster. And really, one clamp should end it considering all its multi-hit attacks hit 5 times. In here I think cloyster gets a good clamp in, or another good solid water attack or 2, especially since it can protect and withdraw and use all that good defensive stuff.

    Winner: Cloyster

    Raichu Prepared with Trainer Ash Ketchum vs. Snorlax

    Agree

    Lapras Prepared with Trainer Lt. Surge vs. Heracross Prepared with Trainer Brock

    Agree
    Zapdos vs. Kingdra

    One of the worst matches in history, this one features a flightless bird and a waterless water dragon. They'll basically have like, 40 spd each, and be sitting there shooting at each other without hardly moving. And in this case in the cave interior I just don't see electric attacks being as effective. Sure, zapdos has paralysis but Kingdra has yawn, so I see that as a push. And I see kingdra having more powerful attacks otherwise, especially with thunder being nonexistant here.

    Winner: Kingdra
     
  3. The Loyal Imperial

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    Uhh, just one comment on those judgements there. Doesn't Zapdos himself emit Thunder? Or did you mean it would be nonexistant in some other way? Just curious.
     
  4. MandaloreYak

    MandaloreYak Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I knew on the anime, and just checked on Bulbapedia. In thunder, the lightning descends from on high. Which it couldn't do into Mt. Moon. I'd probably still vote kingdra even still, but it'd be closer.
     
  5. chaotic208

    chaotic208 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    you said dragon type gives kingdra resistance to electric whi;e zapdos has no resistance to dragon? last time i checked, dragon has no super-effectiveness on flying or electric. neither pokemon is weak to the other's types in this fight. zapdos is just generally nastier :\
     
  6. MandaloreYak

    MandaloreYak Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I said that the location, in the cave, will make some electric attacks, particularly thunder...

    Wait, were you talking to me? Or was that kingdra's gm you were talkin to?
     
  7. chaotic208

    chaotic208 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    at kyp not you
     
  8. Dom_Perignon

    Dom_Perignon Jedi Knight star 3

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    I was writing out some semi-big explanations on the matches, but I lost'm. So to move these matches I agree with Yak on the two contested. Arcanine won't be at its best in this dark, damp, closed in space, and cloyster's lack of Sp. Def is made up for by Aracanine's suceptabilty to water attacks. That one is definitely the harder of the two. Then with Zapdos, being in a cave is a huge disadvantage for the bird, while being a huge advantage to Kingdra.
     
  9. chaotic208

    chaotic208 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    how exactly is the interior of mount moon an advantage to kingdra?
     
  10. The_Chim

    The_Chim Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Umm, crap. Well actually it would seem that I made a mistake this round. It would appear that in number these matches and made two #4s for Kyp, instead of a 3, so that Kingdra vs. Zapdos match should actually be Jynx for Kyp, not Kingdra.

    My bad guys, sorry especially to chaotic and Kyp. I am really dropping the ball here folks. So can we get the judges to do that match real fast? Still in the cave of course.

    Zapdos vs. Jynx
     
  11. MandaloreYak

    MandaloreYak Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Easy. Jynx. With or without blizzard. It can actually move and do good stuff and whatnot
     
  12. chaotic208

    chaotic208 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    oh ok nvm, there i go. for a second i actually thought i could take this to teams
     
  13. The Loyal Imperial

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  14. The_Chim

    The_Chim Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Round One
    The Rated R Pokestars (2) vs. Prenn's Puppets (2)
    Sea Electric Air Land Squad (SEALS) (3) vs. Snorlax Battles the Pink Robots (1)
    Apathetic Attempt(1) vs. Dismay's Rangers (3)
    The Job Factory (1) vs. Kyp's Kids (3)



    location: Sunyshore City

    THREE.


    Blastoise Prepped with Lorelei vs. Flareon
    Moltres vs. Umbreon Prepared with Trainer Morty
    Venusaur *forfeit* vs. Suicune
    Steelix Prepped with Trainer Giovanni vs. Kingdra
     
  15. BartSimpson-SithLord

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    Which pretty much means Mew will hit the Fighter. Perfect.
     
  16. KiwiRogue

    KiwiRogue Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Crack my lazy code, eh? Doesn't matter, I don't seem to be on the same wavelength as others in terms of this draft...
     
  17. BartSimpson-SithLord

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    No, I didn't crack any code. If I had, Suicune would've been the best bet to take on Tyranitar instead of someone who has a weakness to him. Let the "hope it hits a forfeit" fall to Starmie.
     
  18. Kyptastic

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    Kingdra has the type advantage here (Water>Ground) and with water not being one of Steelixs resistances (of which there are many). Even with prep, I don't think it'll be enough to overcome Kingdra (especially since Dragon pokemon are meant to be above average intelligence for pokemon)
     
  19. The Loyal Imperial

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    Blastoise Prepped with Lorelei vs. Flareon

    Got a real match here, or not. Lorelei's moves won't be helpful, but that doesn't mean much when Blastoise could take the match on his own. Most of Flareon's moves are going to be doing half-damage while most of the damage from Blastoise's attacks will be doubled. Much to my surprise, Blastoise is also faster than Flareon. Big turtle wins.

    Moltres vs. Umbreon Prepared with Trainer Morty

    As strongly defense-oriented as Umbreon may be, I think Moltres has the advantage here. He can just keep flying around and raining fire down on Umbreon, or come down and hammer him with Air Slash and Sky Attack. Big fiery bird wins.

    Venusaur *forfeit* vs. Suicune

    Steelix Prepped with Trainer Giovanni vs. Kingdra

    Yeah, I'll agree with Kingdra here. Good as Giovanni and Steelix may be, Kingdra has type, speed, Sp. Defense, and attack advantages over Steelix. Sure, Steelix has a great physical defense, but none of Kingdra's attacks require close-range combat. Killer seahorse wins.
     
  20. MandaloreYak

    MandaloreYak Jedi Grand Master star 5

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  21. The_Chim

    The_Chim Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    And thus, we have our final match for the first round.



    Round One
    The Rated R Pokestars (3) vs. Prenn's Puppets (2)
    Sea Electric Air Land Squad (SEALS) (4) vs. Snorlax Battles the Pink Robots (1)
    Apathetic Attempt(1) vs. Dismay's Rangers (4)
    The Job Factory (1) vs. Kyp's Kids (4)



    location: Mt. Moon Interior

    FIF.


    Houndoom Prepped with Karen vs. Charizard
    Crobat vs. Raikou
    Hitmonlee Prepped with Bruno vs. Mew
    Machamp vs. Typhlosion
     
  22. Kyptastic

    Kyptastic VIP star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'd argue this, but I've won anyway.

    Good game chaotic, you had a better team than a first round elimination shows. [face_peace]
     
  23. chaotic208

    chaotic208 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    dont get your hopes up buddy, is this not round robin style? im coming back. *puts on shades*

    EDIT: btw, in mt. moon, machamp would outperform typhlosion especially with typhlosion glowing in the dark, if were gonna play this like that.
     
  24. Kyptastic

    Kyptastic VIP star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Actually, I'm pretty sure Chim said that this tournament was single elimination, as it was a trial.
     
  25. chaotic208

    chaotic208 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    lol @ contradictions. were playing single elimination because its a trial but we couldnt correct our mistakes in earlier rounds because i recall this WASNT an "Oops Trial". if i would have known the rules would be this wonky i wouldnt even have started this crap in the first place -_- but yes, gg. i got some bad stage draws, but nice kingdra pick, there. that was smart, although if magneton would have learned magnet rise naturally i wouldt have taken this to teams :p
     
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