ST Poll: Is the ST a Sequel to the OT or the Saga (OT + PT)?

Child: "Who is that ghost man, momma?"
Parent: "You know who it is you little @$%&!"

 

No seriously, enough older people probably also don't know anymore who Qui-Gon Jinn is.

 

What elements from the PT would really be needed for part 7? Most of the characters and plot points would not be relevant to the children of Luke Skywalker.

 

Maybe they should just quit making the movie.

Everything is much much too difficult.

Green_Destiny_Sword:

Says you.

 

I think there's a good possibility it could conclude the saga as a whole, but hope it's not the case. It most definitely will invlove elements from the whole saga. ass much as some want to ignore the PT the PT IS the saga and the OT continues THAT story. I really hope they continue beyond E9 though.

 

I also sincerely hope they continue the franchise beyond EPVII. But finish the current saga at EPIX.

 

That's one reason why sequels are often not as successful as the original.

 

Actually, I think a bigger reason is that writers don't tend to know what to do with the character arc after the first film. Characters usually have become heroes at the end of the first film by overcoming some internal problem. Then in the 2nd and 3rd films, it doesn't usually make sense to bring the same problem up. So either you 1) come up with some new internal challenge, 2) repeat the old one, or 3) simply have them be a one-dimensional hero with no more room to grow. The best option is usually 1) imo, but what writers tend to do is 3). That's why sequels tend to lose their dramatic punch and tend to become more about the action.

However, if you know ahead of time you're doing a trilogy, you can pace that character arc with more of a long view.

 

Well said. Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi have no references to virgin births, Chosen Ones, midichlorians, etc. Aside from say Coruscant (and I don't even think of that as a true PT element), I hope the movie doesn't try in desperation to shoehorn elements from the PT just to make a few defensive fans happy.

 

You could reference the fall of the Jedi Order in regards to Luke and his choices. Perhaps in the 30+ years since ROTJ, Luke has learned the full story behind the fall of the Jedi and how their dogmatic and inflexible attitudes help cause their demise. When he founds the new Jedi Order, he tries to change things and avoid making those same mistakes. For example, getting rid of the stupid rule against Jedi marrying or having emotional attachments, since that rule help lead to Anakin's fall.

 

Defensive fans have nothing to do with the story. The entire story is great so far and I hope the ST finds its purpose by paying off or concluding the story as it stands now.


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Prior to 2004 did the OT have any reference to it?

How'd that work out?

 

It should do both. There's nothing left unresolved in the OT. In fact there is no ST without the PT. The PT makes the ST possible and all that you desire to see should be there. IMO.


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Locking this poll thread (with input from Dra---)... please refer to the new poll thread found HERE, with a very similar theme to it.