ST POLL: Who Are Rey's Parents?

feminism is great. new feminism.. not so much.

 

He said the age would fit, not that they'd be the same age... Sabine's at least a year older than Luke (and Ezra)

 

Granek --you clearly don't understand what "feminism" means. Please stop talking about it. You look foolish.

 

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you're right a feminist means this to me:

Feminism is a range of movements and ideologies that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve equal political, economic, cultural, personal, and social rights for women. This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment. A feminist advocates or supports the rights and equality of women.'

what shes asking for is beyond what ^ that explains

KK runs Star Wars -woman CHECK
Rey is the protagonist - woman CHECK
Leia is a Queen - Women CHECK

raging about a woman that may or may not even be in the movie = RAGING Feminist

 

So she can't be a nonentity cause that would be offensive but she also can't do TOO much cause that would upstage Leia! Wow, I doubt any character would make Leia fans okay with her cause her mere existence means that Leia wasn't the only chick hanging out in the OT. It's honestly very obvious that this hiding behind feminism isn't actually about feminism, otherwise it would be a positive thing to create more female characters in the OT era that was desperately lacking in that area. It's pretty telling when self proclaimed feminists only care about one female..

 

So this thread has gone from "Who are Rey's parents?" to "Luke Skywalker's supposed wife: Non-entity or not?".

 

I don't believe I mentioned ANYTHING about upstaging Leia in that post. I said nothing of the sort. What the hell has that comment got to do with Leia? Absolutely nothing.

 

Why is it bad thing if a character doesn't interact on screen with the OT main crew? The OT already feels somewhat claustrophobic with so few major characters and a very narrow/limited view of a HUGE galaxy. We never even went close to the Capitol of the Empire or many other systems. To bring in more characters from that era at least makes the scope grander and doesn't mean they would be less important just cause they didn't hang out with the OT crew. There's way more going on in the galaxy.

 

Right... Cause all those passive aggressive comments against a potential Rey mother who kicks ass in her own anthology film and goes down fighting is all about how this poor character you care so much about is getting screwed over? I mean, if you really just don't want Rey to be Luke's kid, fine but stop trying to hide behind this "I care SO much about this fictional character who may not exist getting screwed over!"

It's just really obvious you don't care? Cause people have provided many ways she could get her own story and not be a nonentity, but then those are shot down for having her to be TOO awesome?

 

honestly as I had said in the "KK Skywalker" thread whether people want Luke to have kids or not it's irrelevant if JJ/Lucasfilm want him to have kids or not.

 

You can believe whatever you like, but my comment was actually sarcastic and aimed at Mara Jade, and how perfect she was. I'm sure if Luke had a wife she would be a lot better than her. it has NOTHING to do with Leia, so please stop putting words in my mouth.

 

what problem do you have with Mara Jade?

 

Luke deserved better IMO.

 

Hmm, this is of course subjective.

 

Mara Jade was perfect? Lol. Okay, so a semi murderous acerbic anti-hero is considered perfect these days! So I guess Han Solo is also a Gary Stu..

 

Absolutely nightangel, I appreciate she had a big following but I never thought she was right for Luke. Just my opinion.

 

Agreed. The film is in the can and nothing we say here is going to make any difference. But we have a lot of time to kill before the movie comes out, and with so much still unknown about the plot, speculation and debate is inevitable.

 

Also where does the idea that Anthology films are second rate come from? Disney is investing a crap ton of money in them, there is no way they aren't going to push them as equally important as the episodes. They'll put less important things on TV but Rebels hasn't exactly been holding back on big stuff either.

For gods sake, the first movie is about the Death Star plans, the whole reason the OT exists and the characters meet. If Rey's mom gets to be a part of something of that magnitude, there is no way that is screwing her over even if she is dead by TFA.

 

And who says Rogue One is going to have anything to do with Rey's mother? That's wishful thinking.

 

No one knows at this point, but many posters act like anthology films aren't a thing and that if Rey's mom is dead there's no way she can have a story ever. Or that anthology films are some second rate dump that isn't worthy. Or whatever argument that supports Rey not being Luke's. Rogue One itself proves they aren't doing second rate stories for these films and there is absolutely nothing to suggest a dead character in TFA can't have their own story explored in an anthology.

Whether it happens is unknown but it's a possibility that people want to ignore cause it would disprove their assertion that Rey's mom would have to be a useless unimportant character.

 

Well I said nothing of the sort, and I'm looking forward to Rogue One.

 

Never said you did, but reading the last few pages you'll see that view from a few people.

 

Because, if she is a critical part of the family, it makes the story of the ST incomplete. Something vital -- someone vital -- is missing. No matter which way you slice it, giving Luke a wife creates narrative problems. Either she is dead and offscreen, which leaves the audience with a very incomplete picture of Luke and Rey's family. Or she is in the film, which is already overstuffed with characters and plot. It just seems silly to create this narrative problem when there are two ready-made parents right there in the main cast. They are both very popular characters, we saw them fall in love, and one of them is a Skywalker, so Rey can have force-powers and still be the granddaughter of Darth Vader. The only difficulty is that these parents don't carry the hallowed name of Skywalker. But there are some of us who think that Solo is a fine last name.

As for all this spazzing out about "new feminism" or "raging feminism" -- WTF?

ETA: the difference between putting Whoosis Skywalker in Rogue One instead of the ST is that it leaves the story of the ST incomplete. Whoosis should be a critical part of the Skywalker family picture, and if she is not there then a critical piece is missing. That weakens the story of the ST, IMO.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. I really don't think she exists anyway.

 

There are majorly hot dudes in Rogue One. Felicity's character is definitely hitting one of those. Now, is it possible she had a romance before Luke? Absolutely but people should be prepared for her character to be paired with someone else. Is romance necessary for a SW film? No. But usually, even with the canon animated series we've seen it (ex. Clone Wars, Obi Wan and Satine, possibly even Rebels in future seasons).

 

assuming majority of these characters survive the movie with rumors of Vader having a role.....