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ST Poll: Would Star Wars be better without the ST?

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Darth Formidious, Dec 30, 2017.

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Would Star Wars be better without the ST?

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  1. Darth Formidious

    Darth Formidious Jedi Master star 4

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    Poll to find out whether Star Wars would be better ending at Episode 6; continued through the collective efforts of the EU. Or, continued through the ST movies.

    We are deciding based on what we have seen thus far in TFA, and TLJ, rather than future prospects.
     
  2. Darth Ewok

    Darth Ewok Jedi Knight star 2

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    Definitely. The story was done and was satisfying enough to live on in the head canon of all who loved it. These ST films have been nothing but lazy rehashes that brought legendary characters back to the big screen with no real story arcs. The battle of Endor is where Star Wars ends for me.
     
  3. Jordan1Kenobi

    Jordan1Kenobi SWC Jedi Draft Champion star 6 VIP - Game Winner

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    Not at all. If anything, it’s improved it by expanding on the universe and giving us a whole bunch of great new characters and stories.
     
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  4. Ghost Ryder

    Ghost Ryder Jedi Master star 4

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    I became a more passionate Star Wars fan because of the ST, and that's just me; in short, the answer to the question depends on who you ask. But I think that's the point. What makes Star Wars appealing or otherwise great would also have a range of answers. I think it's in the spirit of the GFFA to be so expansive, and it's great to have more cinematic stories told there.
     
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  5. JorakUln

    JorakUln Jedi Grand Master star 1

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    Yes, if by ST we mean a saga focusing on our favorite characters 30 years later.

    The better move would have been to set the saga 100 years after the OT and look at the legacy of the characters we knew and loved without having to worry about how they would be portrayed since they would all be dead. Maybe in the opening scene you actually have old man Luke on his deathbed pass on some wisdom to a new Jedi and that gets the fun started.

    The Star Wars brand alone could have carried it. Just look at Rogue One and how well it did. Did Tarkin, Vader and Leia help? Yeah sure but I don't think their absence would have caused the film to make significantly less.
     
  6. ObiWanKnowsMe

    ObiWanKnowsMe Jedi Master star 4

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    No, they don't do harm. They are films that will create a new generation of fans, like the prequels did for me. If fans don't like them, they don't have to watch them. I'm not a huge fan of the sequels, but I like them.
     
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  7. Strongbow

    Strongbow Force Ghost star 5

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    Not for me... they've revived my deep and abiding love for this franchise and given stories I really connect with.
     
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  8. Jcuk

    Jcuk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Well, seeing as though Lucas himself had envisioned a sequel trilogy, it’s rather a moot question I feel.
    The fact is it now exists. And I think it’s coming along very nicely.
     
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  9. lookameatbag

    lookameatbag Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm all for more Star Wars movies, however this new trilogy seems to miss the mark. The Prequels had some nice world building but all the ST is is just a retread of what we saw with the classics. They don't take time to explore how the galaxy has changed after ROTJ. We don't know how the New Republic differs from the one of old, the Jedi Order are omitted, it's not explored how the First Order was able to build such a huge army, and frankly, I don't see the need for a third trilogy if they're not going to move forward in any meaningful way.
     
  10. ezekiel22x

    ezekiel22x Chosen One star 5

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    For me, yeah. I just don't think the new films do justice to the I-VI saga. It's kind of like reading Tolkien and then moving on to one of the myriad LOTR "clones" that at best captures some surface similarities without coming anywhere near the depth and artistry that made me love the original work.

    Oh well. Can't win them all. At least the new Blade Runner was pretty great.
     
  11. -NaTaLie-

    -NaTaLie- Force Ghost star 4

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    If we got the ST as envisioned by Lucas before the sale to Disney where things actually do move forward, then I'd say no. Otherwise, I don't care, it's just an official fanfiction to me. Maybe I should really go and read Zahn's book since it was edited by George himself.
     
  12. Jamtia

    Jamtia Jedi Knight star 3

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    No the aren’t. They opened up so many chances for stories, EU, fans. So as far as the brand not at all.

    As far as the OT goes? As far as right now? It was all for nothing until further notice. ST kind of ruins huge moments of the OT, especially with the OT character arcs. I made a thread about being annoyed that all 3 died too quick in the ST, but I’m more upset now I think at the characters retreading and the story itself. Feels like the OT characters just got in an aging chamber on cloud city.
     
  13. SatineNaberrie

    SatineNaberrie Jedi Master star 4

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    I am not a fan of the old EU, and I don't like the new EU & ST.

    I don't like TFA and none of the new ST characters interest me.
    I refuse to watch TLJ. I read the spoilers and I don't like it. I didn't like what they did to Luke's character even before TLJ came out, when it was just TFA. I don't think the ST fits good with the ending of ROTJ. I'd rather have a Luke Skywalker that grew into a wise old man better than Yoda and Obi-wan with Jedi Knights superior to the old Order. And a way different plot than what we got.
    TFA was very boring and the characters are not very good.

    SW would be better off without the ST.
     
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  14. frail47

    frail47 Jedi Knight star 1

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    While I’ve enjoyed them for the most part, as written they don’t really justify their existence to me. ROTJ was a fitting conclusion to the previous 6-part arc. To me, the ST kind of taints that with the direction they’ve taken with the story. As another poster mentioned, I would prefer something that takes place much further down the road and that is its own thing without being overly connected to the previous films.
     
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  15. VengefulRepublic

    VengefulRepublic Jedi Knight

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    I don't like the ST at all. The new characters (save an occasional scene from Kylo) are really awful while the story-line does violence to the character arcs of Luke, Han and Leia. And to top it all off, as films they are boring.
     
  16. ChewieWe'reHome

    ChewieWe'reHome Jedi Knight star 1

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    Here's a boring mathematical look at it (from my perspective):

    ANH: 8/10
    ESB: 9/10
    ROTJ: 6/10
    TPM: 4/10
    AOTC: 3/10
    ROTS: 6/10
    OT + PT Average: 6/10

    Add in my ST scores:

    TFA: 7/10
    TLJ: 6/10
    ST Average: 6.5/10
    Saga Average: 6.125/10

    Net Improvement of Saga: +0.125
     
  17. rebelknight1

    rebelknight1 Jedi Padawan

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    Yes because The Last Jedi has completely destroyed the overall Star Wars saga and the legacy of some of its most beloved characters.
     
  18. Eternal_Jedi

    Eternal_Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    No, Star Wars would not be better without the ST.

    People who don't like it don't have to watch it. The existence of the ST should have zero effect on their enjoyment of the OT (and PT if they like those films).
     
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  19. Admiral_Wyvern

    Admiral_Wyvern Jedi Master star 2

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    I'm kind of ambivalent on how the ST is done, but the first two trilogies are still the same. If you don't like the ST, there's the EU, and if you don't like the EU just stop at 6.
     
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  20. Anakin_Prime

    Anakin_Prime Jedi Master star 2

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    Yes. I never thought I’d say this but...

    Lucas should have buried the franchise with a shovel, then buried the shovel..
     
  21. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    I have the old EU up to The Unifying Force as the continuation of the SW Saga past ROTJ.
    DNT to Legacy vol. 2? Love parts of it, dislike parts of it. And after TFA and TLJ am beginning to like it even more than I already did. Though am working on a re-write of the era since we probably won't get anymore EU stories.
    TFA and sequels are just an alternate timeline. Exciting what-if stories.
    Do like the characters, planets, aliens etc. though.
    And I get to see the OT Big 3 on the Big screen for at least once in my life.
    Though am now wishing that they jumped 100 years after ROTJ instead.
    As long as someone likes them, fine by me.
     
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  22. Deliveranze

    Deliveranze Force Ghost star 6

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    Would it be that different without the ST?
    Not really.

    Would it be better without the ST?

    No.

    I think all SW helps the universe in some way, and I'm not sure how SW can get better without something. But at the same time, in my personal opinion, I don't find these movies to bring anything that new to I-VI that affects what we've learned in those films. I feel the ST has constricted SW compared to the PT, but once again, that likely has to do with a bias I have.
     
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  23. yanote

    yanote Jedi Knight star 2

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    Yessss, 100 years ahead: That would be a nice job for Rian J!
     
  24. SmokeMonster4815162342

    SmokeMonster4815162342 Jedi Master star 3

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    No, the ST is enriching the entire saga.
     
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  25. DARTH_BELO

    DARTH_BELO Force Ghost star 5

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    I went with no. I'm always up for more Star Wars, and I'm interested in seeing how this saga ends with Episode IX.
     
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