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Pornographic Material: Right or Wrong?

Discussion in 'Archive: The Senate Floor' started by TrainingForUtopia, Mar 26, 2002.

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  1. sleazo

    sleazo Jedi Padawan star 4

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    goid can neither be pleased or displeased, god simply is, pornography has nothing to do with it. being as i am not a christian i dont find it to be sinful
     
  2. Ariana Lang

    Ariana Lang Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Hitler did a JIG when Germany took Paris? Whoa...weird...
     
  3. PowerfulJedi

    PowerfulJedi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Can you explain all the trauma in the world then? Earthquakes, tornados, etc.
     
  4. Lieutenant Tschel

    Lieutenant Tschel Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Actually, Hitler didn't really dance a jig upon hearing of the fall of France. He raised his foot and stomped down. An Allied propaganda officer edited the film to replay the sequence several times in succession making it look like Hitler was dancing.

    Just a little clarification...
     
  5. Garli Pesan

    Garli Pesan Jedi Padawan star 4

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    For the ump-teenth time, it's from the Producers. [link=http://us.imdb.com/Quotes?0063462]A 1968 movie[/link], and current brodway hit.
     
  6. RiggsWolfe

    RiggsWolfe Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Powerful jedi,

    To answer your question about whether I believe it is sinful or not, or how can I.

    I don't believe it is sinful. It's hard to put into words WHY, but basically I just don't think if there is a God he is sitting in heaven going "oh, you looked at a Playboy, see you in hell!"
     
  7. TrainingForUtopia

    TrainingForUtopia Jedi Youngling star 4

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    "...basically I just don't think if there is a God he is sitting in heaven going 'oh, you looked at a Playboy, see you in hell!'"

    Well, I can't speak for any other Christians, but I don't believe that porn is an automatic ticket to hell. We all sin.
     
  8. toochilled

    toochilled Jedi Knight star 5

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    Well I LOVE porn. (In the main)

    Some of it can be annoying, particually the 'soft-core' porn. As with all industries though some of it is unfair to certain groups and as with all industries inequalities and the like should be routed out.
    As an artform though I find 'porn' to be very stimulating and satisfying. I also find the backlash from the so-called catholic church, or rather it's self appointed representatives rather amazing.

    But, ce la vie (sp) , life is what you make it. Live and let live eh :)
     
  9. Humble extra

    Humble extra Jedi Youngling star 5

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    soft porn is annoying?

    HUH?!

    its great, you can watch it while minding the kids, with no harm done!
     
  10. sleazo

    sleazo Jedi Padawan star 4

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    oh wait you are right, natural disasters are the result of people looking at porn.
    Right everything that happens on planet earth is designed to effect homo sapiens sapiens in some way or another. How could i have been so foolish, i must stop looking at porn right this instance or a tornado will hit my house.
     
  11. TrainingForUtopia

    TrainingForUtopia Jedi Youngling star 4

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    "soft porn is annoying?

    HUH?!

    its great, you can watch it while minding the kids, with no harm done!"


    Dude...that's just...wrong...

    [face_plain]
     
  12. sleazo

    sleazo Jedi Padawan star 4

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    maybe if your parents watched soft porn with you when you were a child you might be a more liberated person with less guilt?
     
  13. TrainingForUtopia

    TrainingForUtopia Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Yeah, all young children should watch porn. It liberates minds!

    [face_plain]
     
  14. sleazo

    sleazo Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I watched lots of things you would consider wrong as a child. Yet i some how turned out ok. While i was able to see dirty harry movies, death wish etc. this has led me to enjoy on screen violence while being extremely anti war, not getting into fights, never having fired a weapon. At the same time even though i was very young when i saw a naked woman on a movie or tv screen, the only thing i learned was to appreciate the naked form of a woman. I respect women, as any of my former girlfriends or friends can tell you. Watching these thing s as a child have not led to any negative effects for me. That is what i meant when i said maybe you should have watched some nudity as a lad
     
  15. Ariana Lang

    Ariana Lang Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Sleazo: You argue that he cannot tell you what you should and should not do. Fine. I don't care, you're probably right. He shouldn't. But neither should you. And I hardly think that, just as you said you are not profoundly screwed up by watching pornography, that the sole reason someone could be profoundly screwed up is by NOT watching pornography. How ridiculous.
     
  16. sleazo

    sleazo Jedi Padawan star 4

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    i never said it was dear ariana. im just saying that it doesnt have to be beneficial. i never stated that one has to watch it. I suggested it to him b/c sometimes that is the problem with prudes
     
  17. PowerfulJedi

    PowerfulJedi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Sleazo if you think I'm telling you what to do, I'm sorry, I don't mean that. I'm just telling you what I believe. However back to the topic at hand, you might have watched porn and turned out fine, but I'm willing to bet that more young kids get messed up watching porn, than young kids that don't.

    Let's just say you take a 5 year old to see something like Hellraiser, it's sorta like that.
     
  18. sleazo

    sleazo Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I saw the shining when i was that age and i have no desire to kill people. usually i am giving people too little credit due to my misanthropic views, but most people can differentiate between the movies and real life.
     
  19. Ariana Lang

    Ariana Lang Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Sleazo -- you are just one person. And (since you like Star Wars) you're obviously more intelligent than average. ;) (sorry, a little blatant generalization there.) The fact is, statistically, we could not even begin to study whether pornography screws people up unless we had a simple random sample of at least 30 people who all started watching pornography/violence at (insert young age here), preferably more like 4 or 5 hundred.
     
  20. sleazo

    sleazo Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I still dont believe that viewing a naked person should cause any damage to a child. And as far as violence, using movies as a scapegoat as to why people commit violence is just that, a scapegoat.
     
  21. PowerfulJedi

    PowerfulJedi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Let's face it, 90% of porn isn't what they call softcore, so just to play the percentages most kids would see filth, and the other 10% would still be IMO wrong if the couple weren't married, HOWEVER, I do believe that if a married couple makes a film for themselves and don't sell it for profit or for other people to gain gratification from I believe it's not wrong, because they are married. Also don't you think because a minor can't buy it from a store, shouldn't view it.
     
  22. sleazo

    sleazo Jedi Padawan star 4

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    "Also don't you think because a minor can't buy it from a store, shouldn't view it"
    No i dont agree with every law. That statement is a tad bit silly. I actually had a thriving playboy selling business when i was in the third and fourth grades. I bought my nintendo with that money.
    Kids were very happy to pay top dollar for playboys and i was very happy to take their money. You have to realize i am not a christian and i see nothing wrong with what people chose to do with their personal time, whter it is viewing porn or creating porn or selling porn.
     
  23. MynDonos

    MynDonos Jedi Youngling star 3

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    wow sleazo, thats one of the most ingenious ideas i've ever heard...Where'd you get your hands on them if you were only 8? Older brother or something?
     
  24. Malazaf

    Malazaf Jedi Youngling star 4

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    ... Ive always had to make $$$ with extortion and blackmail...

    Why didnt I Think of that??
    ...And a subterranean geo-front
     
  25. Darth_Sunder

    Darth_Sunder Jedi Youngling star 3

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    *Reads random posts*

    Hmmm. Porn, bible hacking and dancing facists...

    Anyone here like to discuss how Dungeons and Dragons with a subtle blend of 80's metal charmed a generation?

    :p

    All joking aside, I think Homer Simpson said it best;

    "Those movies are for mommies and daddies that love each other..."
     
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