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Discussion in 'Communications' started by Grimby , Sep 2, 2012.

  1. Chancellor Yoda

    Chancellor Yoda Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Sorry if this isn't the right place to ask, but can you tell how to do a spoiler tag for certain information on my post.
     
  2. Dra---

    Dra--- Force Ghost star 6

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    Just wanted to add a vote for fixing the quote nesting problem. It's sort of odd that the mods are forced to stop double and triple posting when the nesting problem is basically the same thing.

    If it can't be fixed technically, perhaps the mods could simply remind posters to edit their posts?
     
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  3. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    [spoiler]Spoiler goes here[/spoiler]

    If you do it right it should look like
    Spoiler goes here
     
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  4. Boba_Fett_2001

    Boba_Fett_2001 Chosen One star 8

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    You know how you can hover over your little avatar to the left of a thread title and a pop up will show how many posts you've made in that thread? Is it only counting posts since the move to Xenforo?
     
  5. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    A quick test with an old Comms thread confirms that, yes, it is only counting post-move... posts.
     
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  6. FARK2005

    FARK2005 Jedi Master star 2

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    Recently, I haven't gotten an alert when someone quotes me. Can you take a look at that?
     
  7. Bobby Roberts

    Bobby Roberts Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Any word on the quote-tree/inadvertent quadruple/quintuple posting issue? Just had an interaction in the spoiler forum again where a poster admitted they really don't like how the automatic quote function works, but going back in and manually cutting out the double-triple-quadruple posts being automatically quoted gets confusing, so they end up cluttering the forums as an alternative to accidentally butchering their own posts.

    It seems to be pretty representative of how the quote function is used: All they wanna do is directly reply to the most recent post, and not the 3 preceding it, but the software defaults as they stand make that impossible, and so we're left with a situation where hitting reply leads to the same three or four posts being constantly reposted on a single page, when most people find that reduces readability, and they don't really want/need those other posts in there anyway.
     
  8. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Frankly I'm not in the least bit sold on the only one quote camp. I see multiple embeddings used for context quite often, but I'm also not convinced it needs the full five, as two or three layers seems like a sufficient number for most situations. Furthermore, I don't see a reason to put special impetus on the users who want additional quotes for context to figure out the BBCode to get that context, which is what the one layer quote system would require, when currently our system makes no such demands.

    Consequently I'm thinking the best route might be to reduce the cap from 5 to 3 or 2, and I'm debating the best way to roll it out. I doubt it needs a big announcement.
     
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  9. Bobby Roberts

    Bobby Roberts Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Not asking for an announcement or a proclamation at all. Honestly, if you just adjusted the limit back down to 1 (preferable) or 2 (better than the 5 we're at) and never said anything about it, I'd bet a lot of people wouldn't even notice - which says something as to how useful that function even is (not very)

    I don't think the multiple embeddings are being used for context, they're just left in there because it's easier to leave them in than to manually go back and strip them out. It seems fairly obvious that's the case, especially considering posters usually cite that as the reason when questioned as to why they do it, and your initial confusion as to the board's inability to do this thing was due to posters incorrectly stripping out all those unnecessary quotes when they did take the initiative to try and clean up all the extra clutter of triple & quadruple posts the reply button automatically adds.

    And I don't see a poster going back 3 or 4 posts to multiquote someone as a "special impetus." For one, they're already taking the initiative to go back in the thread, which means they're very aware of the context and have proven to be following the conversation, and secondly, the automatic quoting doesn't necessarily include the relevant post in the first place. For example, if I wanted to quote a post from the previous page as a relevant direct example (i.e. "here's a thing you can't do" "this guy says it's possible" "here's how it's possible", I couldn't just hit "reply" and the last 5 replies would be swooped up in that. I'd still have to manually go back to that reply, hit reply so the post would correctly be quoted, copy + paste that stuff, hit reply on the post I actually WANT to reply to, paste all that stuff into the window, and then compose my reply accordingly.

    The automatic quoting doesn't do what you're claiming it would do in that example. What you'd need is a selectable multi-quote option that allows posters to tick a box or hit a button that remembers which posts you want quoted when you hit reply, and automatically fills that information in.

    The idea that paying attention to how your posts look and what you're responding to is a "special impetus" doesn't track, for me. I'm unsure why people who can't figure out basic functions such as quoting/bolding should be catered to on a discussion forum over the people who actually care enough about the quality of their discussion to have learned how to use the board.
     
  10. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I usually do erase all embedded quotes except the ones I'm replying to directly, but that's just my distaste for clutter; it's the same reason I can't stand having more than 2-3 web pages open on a computer at once. And I always have to bite my tongue when I go help someone at work with a computer and the person has 10 windows open.

    Tapatalk automatically eliminates embedded quotes and just quotes the poster to whom you are replying; I like that about it. And it has a multiquote option.

    I'm certainly on board with capping the embedded quotes at 2-3 via the board software. However, if any forum moderator made an announcement along the lines of "NO EMBEDDED QUOTES" and started going trigger-happy with the edit function over embedded quotes, I would find it a bit too anal-retentive.
     
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  11. jcgoble3

    jcgoble3 Chosen One star 6

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    I'd say to set the cap at three and be done with it. We lived in a cap of three for years on the IGN boards*, and it worked there. I see no reason why it can't be changed to three here.

    *In a slightly different manner, though; on the IGN boards, further nesting was not stripped out as it is here, but rather broke in a very ugly manner upon parsing. Still, I don't recall seeing complaints about needing more than three in Comms.
     
  12. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Alright, let's try it out with three for a while, see what happens.
     
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  13. Bobby Roberts

    Bobby Roberts Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Cool. Thanks for hearing us out.
     
  14. Admiral Volshe

    Admiral Volshe Chosen One star 10

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    I'm just wondering for future reference - what are the maximum dimensions on the profile page for avatars?
    I don't mean when uploading, I mean in the near-upper left corner.

    The square ones show up fine. The other dimensions show up vastly smaller on my profile page. Anything slightly rectangular seems to shrink to a 200x100 or 300x100 image instead. It gets difficult to see detail sometimes when that happens.
     
  15. jcgoble3

    jcgoble3 Chosen One star 6

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    Not quite sure I understand your question, but the avatar displays on user cards and profile pages at 192 × 192 pixels. Does that help?
     
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  16. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Loving Tyrant of SWTV, Lit, & Collecting star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Mine's rectangular, and displays on my profile at 192x255, so doesn't shrink or anything. Could be a zoom issue, depending on what your browser settings are, though I don't imagine that'd really affect image size/dimensions.
     
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  17. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Edit: The width will scale to 192 pixels, the length will scale appropriately to preserve the aspect ratio of the image (Meaning vertically long images show up better in most cases). In all cases the images have to be able to "crop to square," meaning Xenforo needs to be able to make a square image out of your provided one - ultra long or ultra tall images won't work without some clever use of transparent backgrounds.
     
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  18. Admiral Volshe

    Admiral Volshe Chosen One star 10

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    That answers my question. Thank you!
     
  19. Jangounchained1990

    Jangounchained1990 Jedi Knight star 2

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    How do I respond to only one part of a text? If a text is a huge block and I only want to respond to one sentence what do I do?
     
  20. Ewok Poet

    Ewok Poet Force Ghost star 6

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    I guess that you're a Tapatalk user? When using the full site, simply remove bits of text you don't need.
     
  21. Jangounchained1990

    Jangounchained1990 Jedi Knight star 2

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    What is a Tapatalker actually?
     
  22. Ewok Poet

    Ewok Poet Force Ghost star 6

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    Tapatalk (not Tapatalker) is an app for keeping up with multiple forums at once.

    But since you need help with something, would you mind telling me what you use to access the forums? What computer or mobile device, what browser or app and any other detail(s). Please. ;)
     
  23. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    You can either copy/paste the sentence and manually insert it inside [quote][/quote] tags, or click reply and then edit the post down by deleting text.
     
  24. Jangounchained1990

    Jangounchained1990 Jedi Knight star 2

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    pc computer.
     
  25. Xinau

    Xinau Jedi Master star 4

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    For some reason, when I click "Reply" to a post, it no longer inserts the original post as quoted material. Is there a setting somewhere that I inadvertently turned off?

    It used to work... but now when I click "Reply" I just get an empty (rich-text) box. I can insert a quote manually, of course, but I lose all the need metadata (author, link, etc.).

    Apologies -- have sneaky suspicion this is a question with silly/obvious answer, but it's eluding me at the moment.

    Thank you!!!
     
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