PT Practical Effects in the Prequels- Sets, Pictures, Models, etc.

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  1. Slicer87 Jedi Master

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    I think they are lying to please the fanboys and hateboys. This threads proves it is easy to fool them.
  2. Seagoat Music and PT Section Sentinel

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    I've suspected from the start that they've been saying these things just to appease the "general audience"
    They'd be surprised how many PT/overall saga lovers there are out there, it's just somehow the haters have louder voices...
  3. Han Burgundy Jedi Master

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    It's because there are very, very few PT fans in the film/film journalism community, which is why nearly every editorial piece on Star Wars in the past 15 years has treated the PT like garbage, eventually leading to the illusion that "everybody" hates the prequels. I suspect it's closer to 50/50.

    Anyways, I hope the outcome of their "commitment" is a film that uses practical effects in a similar manner to TPM. I think that film is visually the high point of the saga. It has aged remarkably well. The blending of practical effects and CGI is still some of the best I've ever seen, such as the long shots of Naboo, the tour through Coruscant, and the pod race. And I don't know how they pulled it off, but they used models for the Naboo space battle and still managed to get the "freeform" camera movement you get with an all-CGI sequence. Amazing.
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  4. GunganSlayer Jedi Knight

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    Thanks so much for this thread and for sharing some really awesome photos. It's about time we have a thread like. The PT has some really amazing work in sets and miniatures that have sadly been unappreciated. I'd venture and say it's because most people are riding the CGI hate bandwagon, and assume that there was little, or no practical effects in the films. Sad.
  5. Komodo9Joe Jedi Padawan

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    @Samnz is da man! So this is what you've been doing while you relegate all the lesser, nowhere-near-as-enjoyable tasks of fending off PT-haters to us? Can't blame you though; your posts here are exemplary!

    Too busy atm to scrummage and post myself but you should really find more pics to post, Samnz! You'd be killing two birds with one stone: fighting off the OT-ers stigma of the the PT and getting a billion likes for each one of your posts. A pretty win-win opportunity!
  6. Jarren_Lee-Saber Jedi Master

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    I think the moment anyone starts Prequel bashing for "too much CGI" should be forced to view this thread Clockwork Orange style!!
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  7. Darth_Nub Manager Emeritus

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    To get back on topic...

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    This location in Medenine, Tunisia, is now known as 'Skywalker Alley'.

    http://www.tunisiaonline.com/star-wars-tunisia/

    What's particularly interesting is that some of these granaries in Tunisia, which were used for the 'slave quarters' of Mos Espa in TPM, were scouted for SW/ANH back in 1975/76, they just weren't used in the film.

    According to the 1999 Making of the Phantom Menace book, most of the 'crowd' at the podrace was made out of coloured Q-Tips - which is screamingly obvious when you look at the photo, but it worked.
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  8. Darth_Nub Manager Emeritus

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    On the contrary:

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    The Death Star hologram in the Rebel briefing room is generally regarded as the first proper integration of CGI with live action footage in a major motion picture. CGI had been used numerous times before in movies, but it was always the whole shot, e.g. Westworld, Wrath of Khan etc. Earlier films (2001: A Space Odyssey) tricked it by either projecting or playing it on a screen.
  9. Alexrd Jedi Grand Master

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    IIRC, the battle of Coruscant (until they crash land in the hangar), is a mix of CGI and digital matte paintings. The only (full size) models in that sequence were the two Jedi starfighters.

    That's Ewan's stunt double in TPM.
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  10. Komodo9Joe Jedi Padawan

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    It's about time I finally delve into this thread. Here's some more photos from the PT :

    Coruscant Jedi Temple:
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    Qui Gon and Obi-Wan vs Darth Maul:
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    Qui Gon vs Maul (Theed Generator Complex):
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    R2-D2 Tatooine:
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    Qui Gon vs Maul(Tatooine):
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    Obi-Wan vs Maul (Theed Generator Complex):
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    Mustafar bunker set:
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    Mustafar mountain set:
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    Anakin vs Obi (Mustafar Bunker Ledge):
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    This is the above scene converted into CGI:
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    Padme's Apartment on Coruscant (AOTC):
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    Anakin in a corridor in the Invisible Hand:
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    Part of a LAAT gunship, I believe:
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  11. Komodo9Joe Jedi Padawan

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    More pics illustrating the magnificent sets of the PT.

    Shots of Paradise, er, I mean Naboo:
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    Padme's Apartment (ROTS):
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    Tantive IV Interior (ROTS):
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    Padme on top of the pillar in the Geonosian Arena:
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    Birth of Darth Vader Scene:
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    Naboo Starfighters:
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    Nute Gunray and Rune Haako doing what they do best--looking fearful:
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    Palpatine vs Mace Windu:
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    A few random shots of people on sets:
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    Christopher Lee, George Lucas, & co:
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    Darth Maul getting curious:
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    Tons more coming sometime in the future...;)
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  12. TX-20 Jedi Master

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    Looks like ILM spent a lot of time creating CG shots that make it look like real people building real miniatures and real sets.

    ;)
  13. JoshieHewls Jedi Master

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    I absolutely love this thread. I'm a big proponent of the prequels, and I knew there was more model work than the films get credit for, but some of these blew my mind because I thought some of them were entirely CG (like the walker in the Battle of Geonosis or Lama Su's chambers). Just awesome. Keep it up! Let's see some more! :)
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  14. Samnz Jedi Master

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    Ok, broken promise, but some more pictures.
    Don't expect too much, they are rather anecdotal.

    Quite sure "naked" 3PO would be CG nowadays:
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    (AOTC, before they decided to give 3PO "clothes")
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    Make-Up/Costume etc. Work:
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    More Theed (I just love to work they put into the construction of the city and the architecture):
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    Giant part of the PodRace:
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    More Sets:
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  15. Samnz Jedi Master

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    (love the bachkground here, and all real)

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    (Darth Maul doesn't like sun)

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    (cool stunts)

    Make-Up/Costume:
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    people on set:
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    (Ian McDiarmid is bored :) )

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    This is just funny :) Lucas got lost in a Western film :)
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  16. Samnz Jedi Master

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    To be fair, there was some bluescreen too ;) :
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  17. Mr. K Moderator Emeritus

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  18. TX-20 Jedi Master

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    The look of boredom on GL's face in so many of these pictures is the best part of this thread. I love seeing that it's just "work" for him and he doesn't take it to the sometimes scary level that the fans do.
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  19. GGrievous Jedi Grand Master

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    All? :p
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  20. SlashMan Jedi Master

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    It's obvious in the pictures only because they weren't meant to be viewed that close; I believe these were only used in wide shots and barely seen in the final film. Also note the Micro Machines figures used as the standing spectators.

    EDIT: I actually couldn't seem to find the exact scene that set piece was in, this one is close, but not exact (notice the digitally enhanced audience):
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    The only scenes of the Q-tips that may have made it to the final film are below:
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    This is why I don't take that complaint about Q-tips very seriously.
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  21. Reaper2004 Jedi Knight

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    hope there is more BTS pics to share this is just magnificent
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  22. markdeez33 Jedi Knight

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    Greatest. Thread. Ever.
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  23. Samnz Jedi Master

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    Tribute to Mustafar (Part 1):

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    ..would became:
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    Apropos: Green-/Bluescreen have to be built as well :) :
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  24. Samnz Jedi Master

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    Tribute to Mustafar (Part 2):

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    Result:
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    Interior:
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    Which took some time to construct:
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    Other:
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    Robots, Costumes, Actors, Lighting, Background...all real!

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  25. Mr. K Moderator Emeritus

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    I want to play on that Imp Stardestoyer set.
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