PT Princess Leia's upbringing

Hi,

So I saw on IMDB people arguing on a thread about the 'terrible continuity' between Revenge of the Sith and Return of the Jedi in reference to Princess Leia.

My interpretation of the situation is this -
Leia is born to Padime who is from Naboo
She is given to Prince Organa of Alderan as a baby to protect her identity
They bring her up in Alderan - She believes Alderan to be her home planet (as shown when it explodes)
Luke asks her in RotJ about her mother
She tells of her real mother (or does she)

My interpretation of this is that Leia believes that her real mum is Organa's wife and she was never told the truth (or at least not up till RotJ) about Padime and her Naboo roots.

So for me the continuity, story and narrative works fine. Or am I just filling in plot holes to be kind.

Thoughts?

 

I think I'd go with this

That's just me though. Others are more forgiving of the story.

 

Thanks.

 

Welcome to the boards Kenny MacConnachie...

So, the purpose of this thread was to tell us that some people were arguing about Star Wars continuity on IMDB's site?
Say it isn't so...

 

It is so Sith Slayer. There is a place beyond the outer rim where people argue and all sorts of foul beings congregate and promulgate evils lies about the princess from Alderan. I came to the council immediately with my findings in the hope that you can mobilise an attack on these creatures?

And find out if the princess knew her mum who died giving birth and discover the truth of the creator.

 

Meh.

Let them bury their heads in the sand of some backwater planet and be done with them.
Besides, its way more fun to argue over here.

 

nah isn't a big plot hole to me:

"I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi"

and "a sith lord?"

they are plot holes, I want the scene put back in where Mace had a bump to the head and forgot the obvious.

Also has he never heard of a Sith lord?

anyway that's for a different thread

 

Well, for those who need to think about it.

George has been retconning is movies sinse the first sequel.

No, I am your father!

Then the second Sequel.

Leia! Leia's my sister...

All this bickering about plot holes and retcon is really kinda old news, IMO. It's always been a part of SW, even when you were a kid!


To the OP, Leia could be thinking she remembered her "real" mother or Organa mother. We were never told IU at that point (before PT) that Leia was adopted.

 

People really need to stop using the word 'plot hole' to describe inconsistencies created by retcons.

I also wish they'd quit harping on something that, in the grand scheme of things, really isn't that important and is easily rationalized within the context of the wider, overall mythology and narrative arc of the Saga.

 

People really need to stop using the word 'plot hole' to describe inconsistencies created by retcons.
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you're right

retcon is worse than a plothole.

 

Why would I not use the word if it fits? This is a film series, a saga. If there are plot holes, why would we avoid that

 

What I love the most is how often "plot hole" gets used incorrectly...

like using barbed-wire for a tourniquet.

 

Who is using it incorrectly?

 

The sarlacc pit is an alternate definition plot hole.

And for me Leia's suspicious memories are no more or less a narrative logic problem than Obi-Wan's infamous "certain point of view" philosophy.

 

Um, everyone on the internet?


P(l)ot holes belong to the roads, not movies.

 

Every single large scale story has a plot-hole or inconsistency. The question is whether inconsistencies detract from the big picture or not. The SW Saga, for me at least, may have some inconsistencies but it is also a mythical story where not everything needs to be completely logical or transparent. I am sure there will be a few inconsistencies when the ST comes out...gives us SW fans something to talk about!

 

lmao

 

You guys are referring to Leia's statement as a "plot hole" when in-universe it meshed perfectly with the saga. Luke asks her if she remembers her REAL mother PADME, and she states that she only remembers images and feelings and that Padme was kind/beautiful/sad, some memories that a Force-sensitive baby may lock onto and hold onto during a traumatic experience like being ripped from your dying mothers arms. They had to go with what was said in the OT and they made it work in-universe.

So there really is no "plot hole".

 

Of course there is. A gigantic one at that.

 

And he knew to ask her about her "real" mother. He knew she would have an answer. This whole force explanation is just a way to try and make this square peg fit in the round hole.

It's a plot hole, a massive one.

 

The answer is obvious: Leia spent her time on Alderaan watching the video of her birth.

 

I'm pretty sure Leia knew she was adopted.

 

It's clear that Luke knew that Leia knew her real mother early in life, or he would not ask the question. To pretend he's asking her for force memories is absurd, it's just an attempt to make two things that do not fit together fit