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Proposal - Ignorance as bannable offense

Discussion in 'Communications' started by -_-_-_-_-_-, May 28, 2008.

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  1. Cinnamon_Windu

    Cinnamon_Windu Jedi Youngling star 6

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    I would like something cleared up:

    My understanding is that saying a book is poorly written is allowed, and saying that the author writes poorly is not allowed. Though they both seem like the same thing to me.
     
  2. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Generally, "X wrote this poorly" would be allowed. "X is an idiot because he wrote it this way" would not be.

    One is a commentary on the author's writing. The other is a personal attack on the writer. It's the same distinction between saying to a fellow poster "I think your argument is silly" and "I think you're an idiot."
     
  3. Master_Keralys

    Master_Keralys VIP star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Havac hits it on the head, as usual.

    You're more than welcome to comment that "X really didn't do a good job on Y story, especially how X handled characters A and B was very bad." There's plenty of that in Lit, actually. On the other hand, "X is a moron" or "X clearly doesn't understand Star Wars at all" or "X clearly hates Star Wars and is trying to destroy it" or "X is teh suxx0rs!!!11!!!one!" are not legitimate.

    There's no reason to take a complaint and make it personal like that. It's the latter that we moderate, not the former. If you're making a legitimate commentary on an author's failings as you see them, that's completely all right with us. Turning that into attacks on the credibility, character, or artistic integrity of a creative is another thing entirely.

    - Keralys
     
  4. DARTH-SHREDDER

    DARTH-SHREDDER Jedi Grand Master star 5

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  5. Andalite-Bandit

    Andalite-Bandit Jedi Padawan star 6

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    Read a whole thread, Shreddo. That's from the first page by the way.
     
  6. DARTH-SHREDDER

    DARTH-SHREDDER Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    What are you talking about?
     
  7. HL&S

    HL&S Magistrate Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    No. Otherwise 75% of the jc would need to be banned! [face_laugh]










    [face_plain]







     
  8. ApolloSmileGirl

    ApolloSmileGirl Jedi Knight star 8

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    That's a rather modest percentage.
     
  9. HL&S

    HL&S Magistrate Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Oh I'm sure someone will come around and modify it.
     
  10. George_Roper

    George_Roper Jedi Knight star 7

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    Did I misread when I was skimming a thread or did they ban someone for being ignorant?
     
  11. General Kenobi

    General Kenobi Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    If any such ban has occurred, I am ignorant of it.
     
  12. Rogue...Jedi

    Rogue...Jedi Administrator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Deleting JCC would go a long way to eliminating ignorance.

    Just saying.

    [face_whistling]
     
  13. HL&S

    HL&S Magistrate Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Don't tell Ophelia that. She edits and writes usernotes about that sort of speech.
     
  14. Andalite-Bandit

    Andalite-Bandit Jedi Padawan star 6

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    User notes!??!?!

    NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     
  15. PulsarSkate

    PulsarSkate Ex-Mod star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I wish I'd saved that Bee picture now :p
     
  16. Andalite-Bandit

    Andalite-Bandit Jedi Padawan star 6

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    It's still on my photobucket!

    What would happen if I posted a link to the bee picture, but in bold text I wrote WARNING. WARNING. WARNING. THE FOLLOWING LINK LEADS TO AN IMAGE OF A CARTOON BEE STANDING NEXT TO THE LETTER S. THIS DOES IMPLY AN ACRONYM WHICH DOES IMPLY A BANNED WORD CLICK AT YOUR OWN RISK. ?
     
  17. Harpua

    Harpua Chosen One star 9

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    There are no words so I'll just say.


    Ignorance... [face_plain]
     
  18. Everton

    Everton Chosen One star 10

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    No matter how many times I read about this scenario, it still makes me laugh. :p
     
  19. ObiWan506

    ObiWan506 Former Head Admin star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Is there some sort of point to be made so that we can have an actual discussion? Make it or don't post.
     
  20. Andalite-Bandit

    Andalite-Bandit Jedi Padawan star 6

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    I think the point, exemplified by your above post, is that people should perhaps chill out.
     
  21. Boba_Fett_2001

    Boba_Fett_2001 Chosen One star 8

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    I kind of feel honoured to have posted the bee picture once.
     
  22. Andalite-Bandit

    Andalite-Bandit Jedi Padawan star 6

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    How did you get away with it!
     
  23. FlareStorm

    FlareStorm Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Maybe mods shouldn't necro irrelevant month old threads to make a silly jokes?
     
  24. Boba_Fett_2001

    Boba_Fett_2001 Chosen One star 8

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    I didn't. :p

    Edit: This thread
     
  25. General Kenobi

    General Kenobi Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    OK, this is not discussion of the topic at all.
     
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