OK, this has been on my mind for a while. The original reason that the Philly Outer Rim was created was that there was one (or two) individuals in Philly that were insisting on a Center City based group, with all (or at least all initial) meetings in Philly. Meanwhile, there were many of us in the burbs that wanted to be part of a group, but couldn't make it into the city on any regular basis. The Philly guy suggested forming our own group, and (Thankfully) Jenni jumped on it and the PORFF was born. Since then, this board has had more threads and replies in the last four months than the "Philly" board has had ALL YEAR. That's counting the posts in the Philly board made by the members of this group. That's not to mention that this group has become official, has its own website, and has had continuous local and interstate meetings and activities where the Philly area hasn't gotten close to that in about two years. It just seems silly that this nationally recognized group, with wide participation from PA, Jersey and Delaware (including Philly), has a big gaping hole in the center due to an out-of-date border dispute. So... I think it's time to face the fact that Center City Philadelphia simply doesn't have, and will not have, enough participation to ever sustain it's own, stand-alone group. I motion that Philadelphia be included in this group's domain, that we become Philly & Outer Rim Fan Force , and we all and have lots of fun. (Plus it makes it a whole lot easier to put something like the Liberty Bell into our logo ) You thoughts??? Have fun!