Quantum of Solace (David Arnold)

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  1. Darth_Vader-Anakin Jedi Master

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    You can listen to an interview with Arnold here as he talks about the new film.

    You can also listen to the new title song, "Another Way to Die" here (it begins about 55min in). The song is written and performed by Jack White and Alicia Keys. Arnold was not involved, unfortunately.
  2. Cerrabore Jedi Master

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    I like "Another Way to Die." It sounds suitably outraged. Not sure I'm sold on the crazy "solo" section, but the music and lyrics are strong. And it sounds like Jack White took a few thematic cues from "You Know My Name," so between that and the orchestral embellishments Arnold is still very much a part of this song. I'm sure some people won't like it because it's too, well, punk, but I vastly prefer this to weak, faux-Barry efforts like "The World Is Not Enough."

    Interesting to read that David Arnold himself performed the guitar part in the James Bond theme.
  3. Darth_Vader-Anakin Jedi Master

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    I don't think the song is awful (not even comparable to Die Another Day), rather I find it very mediocre. I don't think there are any particular strong elements that really stand out to me. It might work better with the opening title visuals, but as of now, I'm disappointed.
  4. Cerrabore Jedi Master

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  5. andy1044 Jedi Grand Master

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    He did that at the end of the first one too.
  6. Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Jedi Grand Master

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    I couldn't get the other version to work, so my opinion is based on the song as heard in this^ video.


    It doesn't do much for me, I have to say. Starting at 0:30, it's like they took the chord progression from You Know My Name and contorted it into a song that my Hot-Topic-dressing ex-roommate would listen to. It's more laid-back sounding than You Know My Name, which seems like the opposite direction one would want do go considering that the trailers make it seem like QoS is going to be even more intense (in both violence and in Bond's emotional involvement) than CR was.
  7. Cerrabore Jedi Master

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    The song is not as heated as "You Know My Name." We're seeing a very bitter and jaded Bond, and I think this is what works for him.
  8. Darth_Vader-Anakin Jedi Master

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    I'll be interested to hear if or how Arnold incorporates the song into his score seeing as how it's not strong melodically.

    I'm not crazy about it, but I do agree with Cerrabore's "bitter and jaded" comment.
  9. Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Jedi Grand Master

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    Yeah, I might just be disappointed that the song doesn't psych me up for the movie the way You Know My Name does. I mean, whenever YKMN comes up on my playlist, I feel like "I have to watch Casino Royale right now!"
  10. Well_Of_Souls Jedi Grand Master

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    Not a big fan, at least musically. The lyrics are solid but I wish Arnold had been involved. His "You Know My Name" melody has some inspired renditions in Casino Royale's score and I was looking forward to more of that in Quantum of Solace.
  11. Darth_Vader-Anakin Jedi Master

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    In case anyone had trouble understand some the lyrics (like myself), here they are.

    Another ringer with the slick trigger finger for Her Majesty
    Another one with the golden tone voice and then your fantasy
    Another bill from a killer turned a thrill into a tragedy

    CHORUS:
    A door left open
    A woman walking by
    A drop in the water
    A look in the eye
    A phone on the table
    A man on your side
    Someone that you think that you can trust is just
    Another way to die

    Another tricky little gun giving solace to the one that will never see the sunshine
    Another inch of your life sacrificed for your brother in the nick of time
    Another dirty money, heaven sent honey turning on a dime

    [CHORUS]

    Another girl with her finger on the world singing do what you wanna hear
    Another gun thrown down and surrendered took away your fear
    Another man that stands right behind you looking in the mirror

    [CHORUS]
  12. Darth_Vader-Anakin Jedi Master

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    Here's a short featurette about Arnold's new score.

    http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=44293739
  13. ANAKINSKYWEEZER Force Ghost

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    Hey everyone, this score is up on Youtube. I have to say I'm quite impressed with it; it's definitely the moodiest Bond soundtrack to date.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsbXFm_NaSI&feature=channel
  14. andy1044 Jedi Grand Master

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    Now that the film is out, what do you guys think of the score.

    I was personally impressed by Arnold's treatment of the Bond Theme. It would almost sneak in here and there, but you'd never really get the full statement. Very tactful I thought, though I guess it fits in with the story line that Daniel Craig is not yet the full Bond that we get in the earlier movies.
  15. Darth_Vader-Anakin Jedi Master

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    The music works much better in the film than on album, so congrats to Arnold considering that's the point. I too like the care he is taking and holding back the Bond theme more so than he did in his Brosnan scores, but since we had such a strong statement at the end of Casino Royale, it feels a little awkward not having one big moment with the theme.
  16. Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Jedi Grand Master

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    I think the 'big' moment with the theme is the second half of track 19 - "Oil Fields", which is actually a much fuller rendition of the theme than anything in the movie proper* of Casino Royale.

    Fortunately, with these last two films Arnold seems to have learned the folly of the ever-increasing electronica that made his early Bond scores progress from the great Tomorrow Never Dies to the silly Die Another Day (though considering all the other missteps that the franchise took over the course of those films, it's quite possible that the overdone sampling wasn't entirely Arnold's idea).

    He may have been saddled with a mediocre title song, but Arnold managed to luck into Bond's first-ever real sequel, allowing liberal reuse of melodies from the previous film. Vesper's theme and the "You Know My Name" melody feature several times, to great effect. And to top it off, the ever-dutiful Arnold even makes the most of the few marginally useful musical attributes of "Another Way to Die".


    P.S. Am I the only one who wants to see these two movies edited together into one four-hour extravaganza?

    *Neither Casino Royale nor Quantum of Solace let loose with their full, swinging versions of the theme until the credits.
  17. greyjedi_23 Jedi Padawan

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    I personally prefer Casino Royale's score and "You Know My Name." The music just seemed to pop more than in QoS.
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