Question/Suggestion about word on profanity list

What do you mean using it in the normal sense?

So is the rule basically now that you can't use the letter 'f' when it can reasonably be assumed to stand for the swear (such as wtf, mofo, etc), but that you CAN use f-word substitutes such as freaking, fracking, ****ing, farking, fudging, etc, so long as those substitutes aren't 'eff' or 'foxtrot'?

Also, is WTFrack allowed, or do you need to write it out as 'what the frack'?

 

Correct. Anything that is meant to stand for the swear. The word "frack" doesn't stand for that swear (in this universe, anyway...just like "kriff"). The swear word and words you can look up in urban dictionary to stand for it is what was disallowed. (i.e. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot and "eff")

timmo and Andalite, they pay the bills. What they say goes.

 

What do you mean that the f-word substitutes don't stand for the swear? How does **** not stand for it? And the other words were words made so that you're not actually saying the swear itself.

ETA: Not trying to be difficult, just trying to understand the logic behind it.

 

Rhonderoo, surely you can kind of say to them though something like "...seriously?" But ya know, politer? I know you guys must think some of these rules are silly.

 

Isn't that like when your parents say "Because I said so!"? In other words, it's not a real answer to the question. It's just a way of skirting around the answer.

 

It's really more like when your babysitter says "because your parents told me you had to." They're just doing what they're told, the parents are the ones with the decision making power.

 

Not when the answer is "they said so". We're not going to be able to change this, we asked the last time we passed the profanity list by them, so to take it any further would be arguing in circles.

Edit: Carmen, they have a problem with that word and words used to associate people with it like "eff" and "Whiskey Tango Foxtrot", stars can mean other things and this is about as clear as we'll get on this, I'm afraid.


I'm lucky enough to be able to curse in my own home if I want to, so I manage here. It's just one of those things that if I need to exclaim "What the....?", I can say, "hell, ****, or some other variation"... and hopefully that will satisfy me.

 

No, I'm saying that you guys are like the babysitter who is just following the parents rules. For that reason, my question isn't about the wtf rule, because that's been specifically laid down by the owners. My question is about how you interpret the things that you're given.

You've interpreted the no swearing rule to say that you can use other words in the place of it, such as frack and ****. However, you've interpreted the no 'f' rule to say that you can't use other things in the place of it, such as foxtrot and eff. That's where I have the question and I'm trying to understand where you're coming from.

 

No, those words were also laid out by the owners, also, as far as I understand it. They stand for the F word. In this universe, they are used to say the word without saying it. Semantics I know, but a lot of this argument is.

Frack is a word used on Battlestar Galactica, not a "swear" word in this universe and stars can mean anything, therefore it would be pretty ridiculous to not allow them.

 

I didn't know that 'eff' and 'foxtrot' were banned by the owners as well, so that's where the disconnect happened on my end. If they've gone so far as to ban those words then yeah, there's nothing you can do and the conversation is pretty much dead. But out of curiosity, when were they banned by them?

ETA: I would argue that 'freaking' and 'fudge' are both words that are used to say the swear without saying it, that 'frack' was created in battlestar for the purpose of saying the swear without saying it, and that **** is a way to swear without actually saying the word, but that may just be another difference of opinion.

 

I'm not sure when, but it's been that way since before I became a mod.

Yeah, you could say that about those words, but then again, I don't want to ban fudge and stars. People are going to express their frustration. The owners just have a problem with a few of the words because of their personal beliefs. Their prerogative, they own the place. But I don't think any of us, including them want to get down that far on moderating intent. I don't think I've ever seen "eff" as a word. But if it is, and it's not being used as an exclamation for the swear...there wouldn't be a problem with it. But most of the time it is.

I look at fudge, frack, stars, etc. as words like damn, hell, and ass. They aren't considered as bad or can't be seen as the substitute for the swear word a mile away.

 

From my point of view, it seems that a line in the stand had to be drawn somewhere. There seem to be a number of people who think the line in the sand was drawn either arbitrarily or perhaps too far on the side of disallowing things. Nevertheless, that line has been drawn, and we need to live with it.

We could redraw that line a thousand times and not please everyone. The biggest thing now is to just work with what we've been given. Understand that you can use stars and you can use words from other "universes", but that pretty much any other way to get around using the letter F or representing that letter or word it implies will result in an edit.

And, really, does this really inhibit your ability to enjoy your time spent here?

 

That's what I was thinking myself as I was reviewing this thread and the equivalent MS thread this morning. We have to have a certain set of rules in place for many different subjects in order to regulate, enforce and maintain the current atmosphere of where we and the owners want these boards to be.

 

I understand the need to draw a line, it's just that to me the line should be drawn at the f word and the letter 'f' rather than extending it to anything that can refer to the letter 'f'. However, I totally understand that if the owners have banned the words 'foxtrot' and 'eff' then that's how it needs to be, and now that I know that those particular edicts come from the owners, I'll deal.

 

I think it's ridiculous that the eight-letter word for bovine scat has to be completely starred out. Bull is not on the disallowed words list.

 

So you can't say 'bull****'? That doesn't make sense, since you can say b*, can't you?

 

Yep, bull**** is allowed. So is b*.

 

I was about to ask that... how many different possible uses are there for whiskey tango foxtrot?

 

Please don't say that there's actually conversation regarding the word "Bitching" when describing the complaining of another user's behavior.

It isn't a flame, it's not a direct insult in any way, and it's always been kosher before.

 

No, we're not talking about the verb usage of the word. That will remain unchanged.

 

Huzzah!

 

Just use this when you want to say B* [image=http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x129/WVUChrisF/bovine_excrement.gif]

 

So why was a user edited for posting bull**** here?

 

Linking to a 175 page thread doesn't help. Can you be more specific?

 

it wasn't "bull****" before the edit and the thread has 350 pages