Questioning the Order - One post vignette - Q/O *Meant to make you think*

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  1. Arldetta Jedi Master

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    Lately, I have been thinking about the Jedi Order and it has made me question things about it. I don't exactly know how to put it, but this is a conversation that allows me to ask and answer my questions, while seeing it through two different views.

    Um, That sounds a little crazy, but it's just very difficult for me to explain it properly. I hope I didn't loose you in my ramblings, just please read it and review. I am interested to know what thoughts it might invoke. Or if you think I've completely lost it. Thanks for reading. :)

    Oh and I would like to thank PT for reading it over to make sure it's coherant. Thanks chickie!! :D

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    Title: Questioning the Order

    Disclaimers: Usual, I don't own SW, yadda yadda yadda, no money made, blah blah blah, Lucas Films.

    Summary: A new member of the Republic has a Force Sensative child that they wish tested. But the Ambassador is not sure if they should. Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan are asked to help her understand the Jedi Order.

    Now for the story..............
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    ?A mission we have for you. Delicate it is. Requires an open mind it does,? Yoda announced. The Master and Padawan stood silent in the middle of the Council chamber.

    Mace picked up the explanation, ?We have received a request to test a child for training. The parents are willing to allow us to do so, but there is a question about our purpose in the Republic.?

    ?You will be going to Zindle Beta. They have only become a member of the Republic a few months ago. And this is the first time a request has been made for us to test a child.? Adi Gallia added.

    ?Ambassador Sieyan is a bit more than apprehensive about letting the child be tested. Beyond that she is even more wary of letting the child enter the Order.? Mace followed with a glance toward the tiny green Master.

    ?Before to Zindle you go, take the Ambassador around the Temple you will. Show her what we do you will. Prove our cause you must. So trust may form. Understand do you?? Asked Yoda.

    ?Yes, Masters.? Qui-Gon replied.

    ?May the Force be with you,? concluded the dark Council member. The two bowed and left. Outside the council chamber they walked along in silence.

    Once they were inside the lift tube, Obi-Wan asked, ?Where will we meet Ambassador Sieyan??

    ?More than likely, we will be picking her up at the Senate Building.? Qui-Gon informed as they continued on through the Temple.

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    Just as Qui-Gon predicted, the pair were heading for the Senate building to meet with the delegate. The airtaxi pulled up at a public transport terminal, and the Master and Padawan exited. Walking into the pristine building, they noticed a well-kept woman watching them from a lounge. Her leery gaze followed them as they approached. Her dress was simple and elegant, and captivating auburn eyes peered through soft blonde bangs. Qui-Gon verified, ?Ambassador Sieyan?? At her nod, he continued, ?I am Qui-Gon Jinn and this is my Apprentice, Obi-Wan Kenobi. We are here to escort you to our home and answer all your questions.?

    Her emotions remained hidden behind a reserved mask, questioning, ?Your home? You mean the Temple correct??

    ?Yes, the Temple is our home.? Qui-Gon tried to clarify her uncertainty. His tone welcoming in order to convey the sincerity of his words. ?Shall we go?? His arm extended from the brown robes to guide her out of the lounge.

    The trip back was quiet as she keep her gaze set upon the two Jedi. Obi-Wan had to fight the urge to fidget under the piercing glare. He already couldn?t wait for this simple mission to be over. His own vision turned to watch the passing speeders on the familiar journey home. As the tall spire of the High Council came into view, he had to suppress the sigh of relief. Once inside the comforting halls, Obi-Wan noticed how Qui-Gon barely reacted to the strict composure of the representative.

    ?Shall we begin in the crèche, Ambassabor?
  2. Lt_Jaina_Solo Jedi Grand Master

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    i really liked it! it was really well-written and enjoyed the discussions and stuff... :D
  3. Jedi_Suzuran Jedi Grand Master

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    That was excellent, Arldetta.

    You handled the Ambassador's questions and Obi-Wan's response, with a touch of doubt, very well.

    Nicely done. :)
  4. Padawan_Travina Jedi Master

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    WOW..Arldetta..

    This was a great post..I loved the way you wrote each of the characters and how noble you made Obi-Wan..

    I also love how you had Obi-Wan answer the questions...in a true Obi fashion..

    Good job..

    But now that you are writting can we maybe see some more of you other stuff...:)

    PT
  5. Arldetta Jedi Master

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    Lt_Jaina_Solo - Thank you very much. :) I appreciate it.

    Jedi_Suzuran - Thank you. I am glad that it worked out. I was a little worried about how Obi's responses sounded. I hoped they sounded believeable for his character. I'm guessing they have. :)

    PT - Thank you my dear. I am glad you liked it. I try my best. Now, as for my other fics? We'll see about those. I will try and get another post up on those before I go on vacation by the end of next week. And the reason I am giving such an extended period of time is because, I will be trying to finish our Jedi costumes before we get to disney. But I will see what I can do. ;) :D
  6. CYNICAL21 Jedi Master

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    A deft exploration of the motives that drive the children brought to the Temple - a viewpoint that is hardly easy to explain, especially in a society (like our own) in which pleasure and personal gratification count for more than honor and commitment.

    Nicely done.

    CYN
  7. astroanna Force Ghost

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    Nicely done, Arldetta! :)

    The reaction Obi had to the hard questions he was asked was very believable and well-written!

    Nice work!

    :)
  8. Padawan_Travina Jedi Master

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    Up...

    This needs to stay on top....

    PT
  9. shanobi Jedi Master

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    Very nicely done Arldetta, and from a unique perspective as well :)

    I don't think i've seen a topic/bunny approached like this before. It was very refreshing and very well written.

    I could instantly see why the ambassador would be looking to Obi-Wan for reference and would be asking him the questions as opposed to Qui-Gon. You wrote Obi-Wan extremely well and in character I thought.

    All in all, a great job! I'm impressed :) Now I know you're the one to do that little pirate plot bunny of mine that's just looking for someone to adopt it, hehehe :D

    --Shan
  10. Cascadia Jedi Master

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    Very well written, Arldetta! And very thought provoking. :)
  11. sheleigh Jedi Master

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    Wonderful, as always, Arldetta! :)

    I've never thought of the order outside the order's views... and your marvelous story made the think- but those thoughts will stay safely hidden in my mind. :D

    Bravo!
  12. obaona Force Ghost

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    Oh - well done, Arldetta. Beautifully written, with you clearly showing the progression of Obi-Wan's thoughts. An insightful look into the Jedi Order.

    Amazing job. Thank you for writing this. :D
  13. CalaisKenobi Jedi Master

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    Great job Puck! This is definitely an interesting perspective on both the parts of the cultural acceptance of Jedi training, and the parental sacrifice, as well as the choice of the child. Good job :D
  14. Arldetta Jedi Master

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    CYN - Wow, thank you very much. [face_blush] Like I said, it has been on my mind recently, now that I am a mother, I can't imagine giving up my own daughter. Especially knowing that I would "condemn" her to a life of hardship. Our world, in most societies have always considered bloodlines to be the strongest connection, and passing things down through a hereditary line. That has been used through out centuries to keep monarchies going and destroy familys. I mean take "Braveheart" for example. When the british re-instituted 'Prima Nocta' it brought doubt to the fact that the first child born is the rightful heir to the family wealth. And those questions are what drove me to write it.

    Astroanna - Thank you very much. I really worked hard on this. I'm glad what I had thought came across clearly. :)

    PT - :D

    Shan - Thank you. [face_blush] I originally wanted to do a post where a mother gives up the child, but I had seen those done before. But like I was telling CYN, I kept having questions about why give up a child and is it really something that should be done. We have all written segments in which Obi-Wan has faced something that his youth should not have needed to deal with, such as death. And yet, no one has ever asked, why do we permit this travesty to continue. In our own society where the news continually shows, muder and kidnapping and other such violence, we always say, our children no longer enjoy the innocence that we grew up with. We always talk about how can we make it better so that they can, and yet it still manages to worsen. But in the Jedi, they willing take children into to face the horrors or war and famine and more, so why is that ok? And that is what also compelled me to write this. Thank you again. And I am glad you think me good enough for your PB. I honestly would like to see what I could do with it. ;)

    Cascadia - Thank you!! :D I'm really glad you thought so.

    Sheliegh - Thanks. :) It was my intent to make you think about what the Order is and does. And if it's right to do so. So if I made you question, I'm overjoyed. And tell me what you thought, if it's something I missed I would like to see if it's something I should include. :)


    obaona - [face_blush] You're welcome. I'm happy you enjoyed it. I really was trying to see how Obi would answer, and tried to place myself in his shoes. In an odd way, I have often felt a kinship to his char, from old ben to young ben, he has always fascinated me. And I thought his sincerity and honesty would be the best to explain what I thought. :D

    Muse - [face_blush] I thank you so very much. I'm very glad you liked it. It has been something that has been pressing me for quite some time, and I finally got the nerve up to write it. And now I am most glad that I did. Thank you again for sticking with me and encouraging me through out all my trials and tribulations. If not for you, I might not be here now, expressing my thoughts and feeling like I had done something worth while. Thank you, for being a good friend. :D


    Wow, guys, I am completely floored and overjoyed by the wonderful responses. I was really worried that I was either delving too deep or just flying off into the uncharted territories with this one. But I am really happy that it has made people think. If you have any more thoughts or anything please let me know. Thank you all again!!! :D
  15. Jauhzmynn Jedi Master

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    All I can say is wow.

    I likefanfics that ask and answer tuff questions.

    In that rpg I'm in, a few terrans some had late blooming Force abilites, the jedi from the SW galaxy bring the Terrans from earth to their galaxy. Imagine the culture shock.


    I'd like to write on off it to show just how hard it'd be for a Terran to adjust to JediTraining.


    What conflicts if any to that persons faith. How would the person deal with emerging Force abilites. etc. :-D
    Thanskfor writting that. awesome.
    Jauhzmynn
  16. Arldetta Jedi Master

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    Jauhzmynn - Thank you very much!!! :D I thought they were tuff too. ;) But I felt soome one needed to ask them. I'm glad there's another place out there that searches for answers to some of the questions I posed. Thanks again.
  17. Arldetta Jedi Master

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    Any one else have thoughts comments??? please voice them, I'm very open minded. :D
  18. Arldetta Jedi Master

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    I have a question for you all. How old do you think Obi-Wan is or should be in this piece??
  19. menilma Jedi Master

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    Lovely Arldetta, this story was wonderful :) You pictured Obi-Wan's longing to help people very well, better than in most stories. As for your question I think he is about 17, 18 years old in this story. But I'm not sure, after all you are the writer.
  20. Arldetta Jedi Master

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    menilma - Thank yo uvery much. That's what I figured myself. But since I didn't say anything before I wanted to see if that's how others saw him.




    Another question all - Whould the story benefit from dialogue between Obi and some of his old teachers/caregivers? Or would it detract from what I'm trying to convey?

  21. Mistress_Renata Manager Emeritus

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    I wouldn't add more to the story, Arldetta. But there is something that no one seems to consider in the "how could someone give up a child?" question --

    If you had a child with a gift that is unbelievably rare and remarkable, wouldn't you want your child to have the ability to develop that gift? It seems to me that the Jedi are uniquely able to train Force-sensitives to the full extent of their abilities. And it has been suggested in some EU books that Force-sensitive children who are NOT trained either cannot cope with their gifts and often go insane or only learn to learn them for selfish reasons and generally go to the Dark Side.

    I don't know. For very personal reasons, I feel that sometimes it IS in the best interest of the child to have them raised by someone else. Particularly if that someone else will raise them with love and understanding.

    I think of a lot of young Olympic hopefuls, many of whom have to live away from their families at training centers for most of the year. Would their parents prefer them home? Of course! Would they be able to reach their full potential as athletes? Very doubtful, in most cases.

    I do wonder if the parents of Jedi have some little Galactic support group somewhere... :)
  22. Arldetta Jedi Master

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    Mistress Renata - Wow, that's a very interesting point of view. It actually brings up another question. Although, maybe not as plausable or believable, but hear me out.

    Many people loved "A Sixth Sense" and how scary and/or creepy it was, right? Most people don't believe in spirits and things like that but they are intrigued by it anyway. This movie does kind of show both sides of what you suggested. That with proper trainging and such things do work out. The first child Bruce Willis's char tried to help, couldn't deal with the gift he had and went insane. Because no one could show him how to use it properly. Where as the second child, Haley Joel Osment's char, with the porper guidance was able to 'help' those that came to him.

    But was it fair to Haley to have to live with the frightening specters he encounters? I mean, I don't know about you, but I think I would be pretty traumatized if a kid with his head blown out came walking through my house. And a screaming woman threatened me all the time. Sometimes, it might be best to suppress such a gift. Build up shields, so to speak.


    Well, that might not have made as much sense written down as it did in the head, but it's a thought. Either way, I think it will be a question that really has no straightforward answer. It will always be one of those, 'woulda, coulda, shoulda' kind of questions. With an answer that only comes with time. Hindsight can be a wonderful and depressing thing.

    Anyway, thank you very much for reviewing. I really appreciate it. :D
  23. Padawan_Travina Jedi Master

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  24. sabercrazy Jedi Master

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    WOW Arldetta...you are goooooooooooooooood at what you do
  25. PadawanKitara Force Ghost

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    Very thought provoking little post.

    You also pose an interesting question in your post about The Sixth Sense. I agree with you. If a child gifted with force sensitivity has no traning, wouldn't the things that they may inadvertantly cause to happen be frightening? Maybe even disturbing eenough to send them over the edge of sanity? I think it would be possible.
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