To help explain what Qui-George is saying, he's a bit cranky, he had surgery and is druged. We have an established group in MOSWC.com . We enjoy the freedom we have do to the fact were not part of Fanforce. I agree that fanforce.net is a great site, but its not for us. MOSWC is ran by a great guy whom we all know personaly(KC guys anyway), the freedom we are able express on that site is far greater than we can expect to receive on this site. I think of it like this, Fanforce.net is Wal-Mart, big, popular, but has to comform to Wal-Marts rules; MOSWC.com is you hometown owned retail store, small, you are friends with everyone; even the owner, and there is no big conglomerate to see things over.