JCC Questions for Arlol

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  1. Spider-Fan Force Ghost

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    Last I checked the pledge of allegiance is not a guiding factor in deciding policy for the government.
  2. harpua Chosen One

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    God damn, you're ignorant.
  3. Spider-Fan Force Ghost

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    nvm
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  4. Arawn_Fenn Chosen One

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    He does worship God. We have footage of this. He even called God "awesome". Theoretically he should be as entitled to the "God vote" as anyone. In any event he's a pretty bad candidate to play the "Godless socialist" role.

    [face_laugh]:confused:
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  5. Ghost Chosen One

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    Arlon,




    #1

    President Obama wants abortion to be safe and legal, but also rare. He would probably agree that in a perfect world, there would be no abortion.

    Even if abortion was outlawed, it would still happen. It would just be a lot more dangerous for the women who get it.

    If abortion were to become illegal again, what should the sentence be for the woman who breaks that law? Death penalty?



    #2

    The Founding Fathers agreed that there was a separation of Church and State, and wanted peace with the Muslims. Thomas Jefferson, the man who wrote the Declaration of Independence, didn't believe in Jesus, he was a deist.

    The Founders also ratified the Treaty of Tripoli unanimously, in 1797 under the first Adams administration. Treaties are laws of the United States. This treaty stated:



    #3

    Jesus Christ himself was a supporter of taxes, and separation of church and state.

    He picked tax collectors, who were reviled even back then, to be his apostles and disciples.

    Jesus also famously said: "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's" and "My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world."

    Religion is higher and separate from these earthly concerns, because the new covenant is written on hearts, we each have an individual connection to God through the Holy Spirit (thanks to Jesus's sacrifice on the cross).



    #4

    When has Obama ever said or shown that he was anti-God?

    When has Obama ever said or shown that he was anti-America?
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  6. Point Given Mod of Literature and Community

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    Arlon, who has pledged allegiance to Obama? If anyone has, do you think Obama is encouraging this, or is it just a handful of people messing around?

    What do you think about Non-religious or atheist folk in America?
  7. harpua Chosen One

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    He thinks they're going to hell, unless they repent... he's pretty open about that.
  8. jp-30 Manager Emeritus

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    @Jabba-wocky, are you messing around?
  9. Alpha-Red Force Ghost

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    Oh yeah also...by this definition, Eisenhower, JFK, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter and H.W. Bush probably weren't Christians either.
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  10. tom Chosen One

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    or you know, every president ever.
  11. Ender Sai Chosen One

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    Your Constitution was founded on the principal that religion has no place in Government, Arlon. The founding fathers were emphatic in the point that America is not a Christian country nor is it founded on Christian principles.
  12. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    What's your favorite ice cream flavor?
  13. mrsvos Force Ghost

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    And that is why you fail. I now pronounce you Sunday Morning Sheople.
  14. Ender Sai Chosen One

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    Look I agree the Hitler costume and the Vegas party were ill-judged, but surely it's not fair to blame the end of times on Prince Harry maybe being crowned one day?
  15. Darth_Invidious Chosen One

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    He wants to be god? Where or how in the actual **** did you come up with that one? How the hell do you know he doesn't worship God? You don't even know where the guy was born when this is common knowledge. You can't be bothered to inform yourself about his background and career yet you attack him simply because he's a democrat president and you automatically think that makes him a godless liberal? Or rather because your Bible-belt-thumping medieval ignorant commune tells you so and you remain even more ignorant by not looking beyond what those people tell you. For goodness sake, try to gain something beyond a third grade education and look beyond the confines of your limited isolated hole.

    Ever heard of a little something called "separation of church and state? It's a little concept integral in your country's First Ammendment. Here it is. Read it. Instruct yourself:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    It means that - yes, contradiction coming - while your Pledge of Allegiance states that "We are a nation under God", it also states that the USA isn't a theocracy - it is a secular state. The Government will not force Christianism and the Bible down their people's throats like you and hundrerds of thousands of fanatical zealots like you would want in this 21st century, so so far away from the dark Middle Ages where such an idea would've flourished.

    Yet it also says you can worship and pray to the god of your preference. But it does not say that You and those that think like You are Right in your way of thinking whereas the rest of us are Wrong. Nor that we have to agree with each other. But what I guess we can all agree here is that your ignorance is rampant and unrepentant. And while we may not actually hate you, such ignorance is held in utter contempt. It's your choice to do something about it, but it seems to me you choose to be happily ignorant as long as you don't have to forsake that dusty old book you hold so dear.
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  16. epic Ex Mod / RSA

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    i don't know if i feel worse about Arlol's ignorance or arrogance. the ignorance is startling but the arrogance means he'll likely never change.
  17. Darth_Invidious Chosen One

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    Ignorance and arrogance, a historically proven dangerous combination. I'd like to think that he is so entrenched in remaining ignorant that he won't be a threat to himself and others, though at the expense of enduring a lifetime of loneliness and endless ridicule with who knows what emotions boiling under the surface.

    And if one day her were to snap and decide to take that rage on others on his own (or worse, accompanied by other like minded fools)...

    Problematic.
  18. Healer_Leona Manager Emeritus

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    A lifetime of loneliness? Sad to say, I'm sure there are those with binders full of like minded women.
  19. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    No really, chocolate, vanilla, a mix?
  20. Ghost Chosen One

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    I think this CNN article was written for Arlon: http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/21/to-some-obama-is-the-wrong-kind-of-christian/?hpt=hp_c1

    It shows that President Obama's Christian faith isn't all that unusual at all, and that there are millions of Christians who have (and still do) share the same beliefs... and often misunderstood by more conservative and judgmental denominations of Christianity.


    Arlon, what do you think of this Pastor using the Bible to condemn gay rights? Be sure to listen to the whole thing... do you agree?
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  21. Darth_Invidious Chosen One

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    Like minded or not, I'd sincerely pity the girl that falls for such an ignorant and fanatical boy.
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  22. Rew Force Ghost

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    Arlon:

    What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
  23. Alpha-Red Force Ghost

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    Homosexuality may be wrong from a Christian standpoint, but as a society we nonetheless have an obligation to make sure that gays are treated equally. If you're someone who thinks homosexuality is wrong, then avoid being homosexual. That's your personal choice, and nobody's forcing you to change your beliefs. Religious liberty is not being endangered here...only the Christian Right's hegemonic idea of a "pure and perfect society".
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  24. Arawn_Fenn Chosen One

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    Already asked on page 1 of the thread.
  25. Rew Force Ghost

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    Can't be fussed to read the whole thread.

    Next question for Arlon then:
    What is your quest?
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