Qui Gon Slicing Thru The Door With His Lightsaber - What Did You Think?

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  1. YodasClass Jedi Knight

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    When I first saw the scene of Qui Gon using his lightsaber to cut thru the big security reinforced doors, I remember thinking, "Wow! I knew lightsabers were supposed to cut thru anything , but wow!"

    What were your reactions when you first saw that scene? That was the first scene I can remember in SW history where we see a lightsaber used to actually penetrate a wall of steel like that. Yeah, Luke used his to cut thru the big snowalker in Empire, but to see a Jedi use the "slow and easy" method of burning a hole in a big, humungus, magnetically sealed douuble door! Whew!

    Especially because we are used to seeing the sets of the space stations so clean and immaculate, and to see a lightsaber cut thru like that! It looked like lava melting. A powerful image to me. What did you think about that scene?
  2. Darth_Punk Jedi Master

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    I really thought it was cool. Very exiting and really gave the feel that nothing could stop the Jedi
  3. RocketGirl Jedi Master

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    Honestly? I thought that it was kinda pathetic. I was led to believe that a lightsaber would cut through anything except another lightsaber. And, granted, it was cutting, but every other time we've seen a lightsaber in action it was completely effortless.

    I suppose a blast door would likely have some sort of resistant coating or something, but I still felt the lightsabe should have done the hot-knife-through-butter thing...
  4. YodasClass Jedi Knight

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    Interesting, I also thought at that point, how much cell energy is that using in the lightsaber itself? How long could he fight with it after that? Days? Weeks? Hours?

    In The Tales of The Jedi comic series, they had little packs they would carry with it to keep it constantly charged while they were out doing battle.

    Anybody have the diagram of the inner workings of a lightsaber? Is it like a ever charging battery due to the crystals inside or do they have to recharge it eveyr now and again or do they just replace the crystals?
  5. Cometgreen Jedi Master

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    I was glad, as I always thought that that's exactly how a lightsaber would work. I always thought that the saber was incredibly hot (hence no blood from severed arms), and that scene just confirmed it. Plus, I like the shot of Qui-gon concentrating as he's letting the walls melt. It just looked cool, and really made me thank Lucas and co for picking Liam Neeson for that role.

    Cometgreen
  6. Scott3eyez Jedi Master

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    I just thought it was damn cool.
  7. AdamBertocci Manager

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    Oddly enough, I thought the door should have offered MORE resistance. :p

    Although, let's face it, lightsabers are not among SW's more scientifcally accurate creations [face_laugh]


    Anyway, I thought the scene was nice, the image was pretty cool... but it wasn't something I gush over to the extreme.



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  8. effortless_skill Force Ghost

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    i feel that it had more to do with power setting with qgj saber.
    jedi make there saber with thier on specs qgj probably had a high power setting on his saber for maximum power obi wan his had a slow materialization because he made his for stabilty jedi construct thier sabers to do different things
  9. DarthSil Jedi Master

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    I've always loved that scene. It shows the true strength of the lightsaber. Not that we ever doubted it.
  10. qui-gon-kim Jedi Master

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    Honestly? I thought that it was kinda pathetic. I was led to believe that a lightsaber would cut through anything except another lightsaber. And, granted, it was cutting, but every other time we've seen a lightsaber in action it was completely effortless.

    That's not true. In the OT, there are many instances of lightsabers hitting walls and objects and not cutting through them. For example, in ESB, Luke dodges Vader's attack and his saber hits the wall, but all it does is cause a shower of sparks. It doesn't cut through. The same thing happens in AOTC when Dooku tries to hit Yoda, but hits his ship instead.
  11. Esperanza_Nueva Force Ghost

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    i thought that scene was awesome... but i was a bit surprised that Qui-Gon's hands didnt get a bit singed being so close the sizzling part of the door ;)
  12. Lord_Hydronium Manager Emeritus

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    I love the brief statement of the Force theme in this scene, and in fact all the music for this particular part. The scene itself is great as well: the true power of the Jedi is displayed for the first time here (chronologically, that is). Qui-Gon has almost cut through the doors, solving the whole problem right then and there, when the droidekas come and ruin the whole thing. Had Qui-Gon been able to get through and use agressive negotiations, the invasion never would have happened, the Trade Federation would have been forced to leave (Gunray would be too much of a coward against two Jedi), with the crisis over Palpatine never would have got his chance to call for a vote of no confidence, he wouldn't have come to power, and Anakin would never have been found. Essentially, in this moment the entire saga is decided, and two droidekas manage to set the whole thing in motion.

    Of course, this may be placing a bit too much importance on this one scene. It's a great scene nonetheless.
  13. flyingillini Jedi Padawan

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    An excellent scene. As stated before it shows the full power of a Jedi Knight of which I was glad to see after seeing the potential of Jedi in the OT.
  14. Darth_Deagol Force Ghost

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    It's kind of funny that this has come up because when I saw TPM for the first time is was with one of my brothers.

    The first thing he said to me after we got out of the theatre was, "Hey, now we know."

    "Know what?" I ask him inquizitivly.

    "What happens when you stick a lightsaber right into a wall."

    "Oh yeah, that was really cool."

    I guess I asked him once what he thought would happen if you took an unactivated lightsaber, pointed it at something really big and soild and turned it on. Now we know. Thanks, Mr. Lucas.
  15. medleyoz Jedi Master

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    I always love this scene. I like the fact that Obi-Wan is still defending of droids as QGJ is melting the door.
  16. V Wing Fighter Pilot Jedi Master

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    It was a great scene to open the Star Wars movie saga once again with. Quite Cool.
  17. Bjork Jedi Master

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    Apart from looking very, very cool I think that it was a great addition. :D We got a demonstration of what extended uses a lightsaber can have (never be bothered by unopenable bottles again, just take a lightsaber and... 8-}), plus just how powerful and determined the Jedi were - which is crucial for introducing them for the first time in Episode I.
  18. generallee5 Jedi Knight

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    I thought this scene was really cool. I liked it when Qui-Gonn stabs the thing after the blast doors close. I was wondering why he didn't burn his hands. Cool scene.
    It made me wonder, though. In ANH, when the blast door closed on Vader right after he killed Obi-Wan because Luke shot the door controls, why didn't he just cut through it with his lightsaber?
  19. Otis_Frampton LFL Artist, Moderator Emeritus

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    I think it's one of the most beautiful images in the film, actually. Qui-Gon is completely calm as he slowly turns the saber, totally focused on the task at hand and his mission as a Jedi Knight. At that moment, he is the embodiment of everything Yoda talks about in ESB.

    I also like the dichotomy between that scene and the opening of ANH. In one movie, the good guys are cutting through the door to get to the bad guys. In the other film, the reverse is happening.

    -Otis
  20. GnD_Cd_402 Jedi Padawan

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    I loved the look on Qui Gon's face. Also, I agree with how it shows the true power of both the Jedi and the lightsaber.
  21. Lank_Pavail Jedi Grand Master

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    A truly excellent scene. I agree with L_H, the entire course of event were changed by thse critical few seconds.
    This shows us the power of a sabre unlike anything else. And the sheer danger one courts by trying to oppose a Jedi.
  22. padawanskywalker Jedi Master

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    I thought, Wow!Qui-Gon!You eating a metal sandwich? YodasClass is correct with wow
  23. Durwood Jedi Grand Master

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    When I saw this scene for the first time, one word came to mind: "Awesome!"
  24. -Ace- Jedi Master

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    I've always loved this scene. Especially after Qui-Gon is cutting a circle in the door, but they close the blast doors. The look on his face was great it was like, "They closed the blast doors. How dare they."

    Definately one of the best scenes in the saga.
  25. waheennay Jedi Master

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    Great scene. I also loved later on when Qui-Gon twirled his lightsaber, extinguished it, and put it back in his belt in one quick move, then Force- pushed two battledroids escorting the Queen's entourage with just a casual gesture.
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