You are right SRN, Qui-Gon does have people who look at his actions from different points of view. BTW, about Luke's importance to the saga: I was reffering to the FACT that Anakin being close enough to Palpy alone,in and of itself, cannot justify VADER's Actions. If we're going to say it was Anakin who CHOSE to turn to the dark side, then the same must be said it was Vader who blasted millions into oblivion, strangled a rebel commander, and hacked his own son's right hand off. This whole "It Was His Fate. FATE MADE ME DO IT! What?! Either he was responsible for his own actions or not. This whole "We must understand him and his motivations" is a bunch of hooey. So, next time I watch Vader commit all of his diabolical acts in ANH and ESB, I won't be blaming Palpatine,which is what some people apparently want, I'll blame Vader. Dear Lord, 5 years from now hopefully there won't be fans who look at Anakin as Vader in ANH and burst out crying, "The poor man!" "It wasn't his fault he crushed that man's esophagus. Really, it wasn't." He had no choice" He had to do it so he could eventually bring balance." Vader was one of Palpy's henchmen and I'd hate to see Lucas try and sentamentalize or weaken the true villian that is Lord Vader, one of the greatest villains in cinematic history. IMHO, big mistake. But, I'm going to wait until the credits roll on Episode 3 until I reach a conclusion.