PT Qui-Gon's Republic Credit Blunder

…Because he's not a murderer?

Why didn't Luke just kill Vader and Palpatine and be done with it? They certainly deserved it more than Watto.

 

Good idea. Qui-Gon slaughters a defenseless, unarmed Toydarian in cold blood and takes the hyperdrive. Meanwhile the audience viewing this act gasp in horror, and their like and respect for this man diminishes as they wonder how he's even a Jedi Knight with an apprentice, and why Anakin or *anyone* would want to follow him after that.

In short, it's not the Jedi way and it certainly isn't in Qui-Gon's character.

 

Uh... preeeeety sure that was a joke

 

Or the person was being serious.

 

Yeah it was a joke...

 

I was also joking, everyone.

 

I don't understand the point.

They could have landed at multiple places on the planet in the first place but fate and the Force took them to Anakin just like R2 and 3PO could have ended up anywhere but wound up with Luke which ended up taking them to Ben.

 

Qui-Gon should have threatened Watto with his lightsaber if he didn't get the hyperdrive and free Anakin and Shmi.

 

Again, not the Jedi way. They aren't thugs or extortionists. If there's a way to solve a problem without a lightsaber, they take it.
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That aside, Watto was probably the only one to have it. Just look at the vendor scenes, there's little technology and the fact that Watto has a hyperdrive is extraordinary. Not to mention Anakin, probably the biggest reason they got it from Watto.

 

Slavery is just plain wrong. It could be a skid close to the dark side to threaten Watto, but it would be the right thing to do. Besides, Qui-Gon has a bit of a rebellious streak and doesn't always follow the code.

 

Slavery is just plain wrong. But as I said, if there is a way to solve a problem with a lightsaber or violence the Jedi take it. And they did solve the problem in the end. Shmi staying was basically the only remaining problem, but for the most part, they did what they needed to do. As Qui-Gon said, he didn't go there to free slaves.

 

And you see where that decision headed.

 

Brandishing a Lightsaber about would catch the attention of the Hutts, which is what they were trying to avoid. Hence Qui-gon didn't wear his Jedi robe and covered up his Lightsaber with the poncho. Anyway, it's still not the Jedi way and Qui-gon is not that kind of maverick. That only refers to his arguments about how the Jedi should be and not what they were. Leaving Shmi behind wasn't the problem. Anakin disobeying orders and letting his emotions take control was the problem.

 

I'm sorry, but did Qui-Gon not brandish his lightsaber in the middle of Mos Espa to destroy a Probe Droid? Of course I'm stating what the Jedi should be, that's why I stated what Qui-Gon should do.

And yes, leaving Shmi in slavery on an Outer Rim Planet was a problem, Anakin or not. Not freeing her was morally wrong.

 

Qui-gon was getting ready to leave Tatooine, when he did that. As to leaving her behind, while it was morally wrong, there wasn't much that could be done. It is not within the Jedi's mandate to free slaves in worlds outside of the Republic. That's why it went on for so long. As Qui-gon himself said, "I didn't come here to free slaves." Beyond that, Qui-gon was dead and the Council was content to not interfere with the Hutt government.

 

Exactly, he could leave Tatooine after cutting Watto in half/get him to do his bidding.

It is morally wrong, and you agree with that. It was a fault of the Jedi to be sure.

 

Of course it's morally wrong. But so is doing nothing about the atrocities and slavery in North Korea. And yet the world community and a majority of the world's populace does nothing about that either. It's a sad reality but it is what it is. Right now, no country is willing to deal with the destabilization that would result from intervening in North Korea, so the atrocities continue.

 

Jedi=/=Real world governments

 

But the Jedi are human and they are under the direction of the Senate to whom they owe their loyalty. It's wrong for them to not help with the situation on Tatooine, but it doesn't make them heartless, despicable monsters if they don't either. Unless, of course, you're willing to say the same about every government and populace in the developed world.

 

Shmi was in Qui-Gon's grasp. He had every chance to take her, and he didn't. If he could save Anakin from slavery, why not Shmi?

Again, the real world doesn't have anything to do with this. We're not Jedi.

 

Then he would become an agent of evil, because that is killing in cold blood and it is not the Jedi way. That very thinking is why the Sith exist in the first place.

It was the fault of the Republic for letting the Outer Rim fall under the jurisdiction of the Hutts and for not showing an interest in systems outside of their government.

Because Qui-gon couldn't free her. Two slaves were not worth a single wager and he didn't have the money to pay for her release. Besides, she's freed five years later and lives a happy life.

The Jedi are akin to the Samurai and local law enforcement. They just can't go around doing whatever, that's what causes international or in this case, intergalactic incidences. If Qui-gon did that, the Hutts would declare war on the Republic.

 

How would he become an agent of evil? Watto was a slave master, and if he refused to let Shmi go, Qui-Gon had every right to cut his head off.

 

He tried. But Watto wouldn't sell her after Qui-Gon won the bet. Qui-Gon even said that he tried in the film and they ended up just giving the money that they got from selling the pod to Shmi.

Given that she had a bomb in her and they were pressed for time, Qui-Gon did the best he could.

 

He didn't try hard enough. There is a reason he has a lightsaber. To do justice. For the greater good. I don't care about "using a lightsaber only for protection" BS.

He could have used the force to deactivate the bomb.