Senate "Race" Relations (was "U.S. Society and Black Men")

True. I know this because I've watched several American Civil War documentaries (Pretty interesting from a German perspective).

 

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You think that's weird? I think Kentucky has a part of it that's actually in Illinois, or surrounded by the Mississippi River. Whatever it is, it's a weird set up, partially due to the river, at least.

 

The weirdest one is the part of Minnesota that's in Canada. Silly people in the 18th century didn't know where the Mississippi began.

What thread is this again?

 

The Race Relations in the Northwest Angle Thread.

 

Virgina was super greedy with thier land claims. At one point they claimed.......

Kentucky, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, & parts of Pennsylvania, Maryland & Minnesota.

 

The Maryland part had to do with "the western most source of the Potomac River shall be thee western boundary of the colony of Maryland".

 

Okay, I don't think hardly any criminals actually want to go to prison for street cred. I think that's a coping mechanism. Once they're there, they front. They join a gang if they're not already in one. But they do that to survive and cope. Most of them are still pretty desperate to get out and go home.

But sadly, a lot of them (especially men of color, bringing this back to the topic) kind of buy into society's stereotypes of people like them. The world sees them as thugs, even if their crimes were minor, so they embrace that. They claim being to prison makes them hard and more legit and badass. But how many actually wanted to be in prison, really? I find it dubious to think that it's even a significant number.

Well, I don't know. For one thing, I'd make it part of a larger justice system reform. I mentioned that the UK forbade their cops from lying to suspects, which cut down hugely on false confessions.

Secondly, when talking about the people most vulnerable to unfair convictions and sentences, particularly poor people and many people of color, the vast majority of people in this group never see trial. They take plea deals. When people do go to trial, they actually generally have a lower risk of conviction. But many people are frightened into not risking trial by

A lower threshold for jury decisions would also, by the way, apply to acquittals as well. This would mean fewer mistrials, which can lead to people who have not been convicted of anything being stuck in jail for months or years longer while going through another trial (this happens mostly to poor suspects who can't afford bail). I think honestly the people who would be convicted more often on an 11 person decision are actually probably white people and people like cops, who seem likely to get one sympathetic person on the jury to not believe they could be guilty.

But again, this would be one part of a massive justice system overhaul, in my mind.

By the way, I watched the Netflix doc "Thirteenth" the other day. Very good and sobering look at how our current "justice" system is in fact an extension of a new type of slavery.

 

He should get life. No chance of parole. Lock him up surrounded by speakers blazing Marvin Gaye's What's Going On? 24-7. That might torture him.

 

Was this case televised at all and has anyone followed it closely? *ahem* Bazinga'd

If so, what is your opinion of his sentence?

 

I know I might be getting some heat for this....but if Dylan Roof is a candidate for the death penalty, I wholeheartedly believe we should make it public.


Let the evil little bastard swing.

 

No.no.no.no.no.

 

My response exactly. JFC.

 

Burn the Witch

 

They should make him praise General Sherman before every meal.

 

Sherman didn't exactly love black people. He was indifferent at best. Roof would probably let out some stupid rebel yell war whoop if that happened.

Just a quote from Sherman writing to his wife Ellen in 1860 on his views:

All the congresses on earth can’t make the negro anything else than what he is; he must be subject to the white man."

 

And add an assignment to review WEB Du Bois's Black Reconstruction in America.

 

He'll be segregated from the entire prison population and left to stew in his hate.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38370631