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Senate "Race" Relations (was "U.S. Society and Black Men")

Discussion in 'Community' started by Jedi Merkurian , Aug 11, 2014.

  1. STARBOB

    STARBOB Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    So when the suspect is white and the police have a description they never talk to any white person who fits that description who is near the crime scene? that is some bad police work.
     
  2. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The equivalence would be talking to every white person, in a belligerent manner with an assumption of guilt, who was anywhere near the crime scene.

    "Is black" does not equal "fits the description of the suspect." Many assume it does.
     
  3. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    https://twitter.com/doamuslims/status/883394490635083776

    Turns out wearing clothes while brown in the UK mean some dumb white woman will assume you're a terrorist and involve the police, handcuff you, and have you searched, while she then harasses another brown person for filming it.
     
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  4. Jedi Merkurian

    Jedi Merkurian Future Films Rumor Naysayer star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    The bolded phrase becomes a bit more broad when you're a person of color. Not for nothing does the phrase "you people all look alike to me" exist.
     
  5. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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  6. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    I didn't know it was possible to do an "I'm not racist I have a black friend" for a whole empire, but the Daily Mail sure did.


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  7. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    I just can't believe a Murdoch publication would stoop so low! :p
     
  8. gezvader28

    gezvader28 Chosen One star 6

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    I don't think the Daily Mail is one of Murdoch's
     
  9. FatBurt

    FatBurt Sex Scarecrow Vanquisher star 6

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    That's a standard issue for them.



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  10. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Ah, I stand corrected. It's a right-wing British rag he somehow doesn't own.
     
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  11. Jedi Merkurian

    Jedi Merkurian Future Films Rumor Naysayer star 7 Staff Member Manager

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  12. Outsourced

    Outsourced Force Ghost star 5

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    Christ on a Caesar Salad is it just me or are things getting worse lately? Seems like there are more racially charged shootings recently. One sensless shooting is too many, and it feels like they're happening on the daily.
     
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  13. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    When it comes to police violence, its always been this way. We just have video of it now.
     
  14. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I think KW is right; we have video of it now and it's also getting more attention since the Black Lives Matter movement formed.

    One of my favorite novels is The Rock and the River by Kekla Magoon. It takes place in the 60s and has a police shooting of an unarmed black teenager. It's fiction, it was published in 2009, well before these events were getting highly publicized, but it was based on the idea that these have always been common.
     
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  15. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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    And social media to spread said videos around like wildfire.
     
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  16. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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  17. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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  18. Healer_Leona

    Healer_Leona Squirrel Wrangler of Fun & Games star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    What is wrong with police forces that they hire such ignorant stupid cops, or just damn racist ones. That is the only choice in this. Who looks at a 5'2" 115lb person (I'll even give those asshats that they couldn't tell she was a female) for a bald 5'10" 170lb person. Sure, she had a hat on but it wouldn't be much to have her take it off. Wouldn't that be all that was needed to know she didn't look in any way like their suspect? So many inept, cowardly and racist thugs with badges.

    Again, the force say they did nothing wrong, so again I will ask, where the hell are all the supposed 'good cops'? Who (other then the usual racist suspects oh and the blue wall of silence when they do something wrong ) in their right mind believe this bs?
     
  19. Rylo Ken

    Rylo Ken Force Ghost star 7

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    So, usually you have to be 21 to join the police force. I think the stats are something like 20% of police officers first served in the military. Also I'd assume a lot of them are in the reserves, national guard, etc.

    I've occasionally wondered what the consequences of the U.S. being at war for so long (16 years and counting) might be for institutions that recruit from the military. I'd assume that police departments as a whole nationwide have one of the highest concentration of combat veterans. Maybe I'm wrong about this. But I wonder what it's like for a police officer who's been in armed combat in Afghanistan or Iraq. Does it color your perception of interactions with the people in the community where you work?

    Edit: interesting article from 2014: http://www.policemag.com/channel/ca...01/military-vets-joining-law-enforcement.aspx
     
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  20. CT-867-5309

    CT-867-5309 Chosen One star 7

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    I know a smart guy who tried to become a cop. They told him he thought too much.
     
  21. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Police forces draw an inordinate number of people (mostly men) with authoritarian tendencies. I would also hazard a guess that many police forces today (particularly those outside of major urban areas) have an ongoing gravity force that discourages people of other personality types, particularly those who favor non-confrontational approaches and and any method that involves giving credit to either civilians in general or suspects in particular. This all goes along with a continued preference for white supremacy as manifested through various police interests (financial and otherwise), social dynamics, and so on.

    To put it another way, if you're a white male who believes strongly in obedience to authority and is willing to use deadly force while also being great at fraternizing with other people who believe this way, there may well be a place for you on a police force today. If you're a more thoughtful person that prefers methods that involve something other than brute force on suspects and believes that everyone really does have certain rights (and particularly minorities), you may well find a "no vacancy" sign.
     
  22. Healer_Leona

    Healer_Leona Squirrel Wrangler of Fun & Games star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    Sounds like a bunch of sadistic, bloodthirsty, barbarians join the police then. Is there any wonder why we hear and see so much brutality?
     
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  23. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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  24. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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  25. Healer_Leona

    Healer_Leona Squirrel Wrangler of Fun & Games star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    So this time it's 'murican horror story.
     
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