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Senate "Race" Relations (was "U.S. Society and Black Men")

Discussion in 'Community' started by Jedi Merkurian , Aug 11, 2014.

  1. Jedi Merkurian

    Jedi Merkurian New Films Thread Reaper and Rumor Naysayer star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Now that the boards are acting somewhat normal, and the ST threads are slightly less frantic :p I'll post an article from a couple of weeks ago:

    Study Shows News Media Consistently Offers Warped Depiction of Black Families
    From the article:

     
  2. Healer_Leona

    Healer_Leona Squirrely Community Mod star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    Sadly, not surprised by that at all.
     
  3. Diggy

    Diggy Force Ghost star 7

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    But there is that one car commercial with all white bank robbers. So.
     
  4. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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  5. SateleNovelist11

    SateleNovelist11 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    “Justice is indivisible, and a threat to justice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.”
    - MLK [​IMG]

    "When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triples of racism, materialism, and militarism are incapable of being conquered."
    - MLK

     
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  6. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    I thought people knew MLK was a social democrat?
     
  7. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 9

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    I think what's interesting and great about his quotes and positions in that article is that, while they were radical in his own time (thinking the Vietnam War was madness, pointing out how white people haven't done enough self-reflection, noting how economic hardship disproportionately affects black people) are now not at all radical. They're pretty much mainstream left-leaning thought. But amongst people from my generation, they're not even that... Hell even my libertarian brother is passionate about social justice and criminal justice reform.

    So reading those quotes from MLK, the fact that they no longer seem radical is a testament to how he and all the hard working people who followed in his footsteps in the following decades pushed the boundaries.

    I still believe his early dream is the ultimate goal. It is just still a long way away. But in his time, the idea that the majority of young white people would support criminal justice reform for black people probably also seemed a long way off. A black President certainly seemed a long way off. But as MLK also said, let's not stop and think that those things are enough. The hike is long and the mountain is high. But his radical vision and work was a fantastic catalyst, and remains so for me.

    Happy MLK Day.
     
  8. Jedi Merkurian

    Jedi Merkurian New Films Thread Reaper and Rumor Naysayer star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    “Whites, it must frankly be said, are not putting in a similar mass effort to reeducate themselves out of their racial ignorance. It is an aspect of their sense of superiority that the white people of America believe they have so little to learn.”

    “These are the deepest causes for contemporary abrasions between the races. Loose and easy language about equality, resonant resolutions about brotherhood fall pleasantly on the ear, but for the Negro there is a credibility gap he cannot overlook. He remembers that with each modest advance the white population promptly raises the argument that the Negro has come far enough. Each step forward accents an ever-present tendency to backlash.”

    -Martin Luther King, Jr. “Where Do We Go From Here, Chaos Or Community?”
     
  9. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 9

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    Exactly, exactly, exactly. Loved those quotes. We absolutely as white people can't just pat ourselves on the back and move on with our lives. It's on us to try to change our own attitudes and those of our community.

    While I certainly try to do that, especially in conversations with my parents because it's more comfortable with them, I admit there are also times I've failed, and I'm ashamed of those.

    Earlier this year my uncle used the n word in relation to an athlete, in a way he thought was positive. I was so shocked (because I honestly have never heard a friend or family member besides him use that word), that I didn't even say anything. It was deeply uncomfortable. But I realized soon after that I should have said something. Likewise, I sometimes play Destiny with an Indian guy who uses the "friendly" version of the n word occasionally in matches (or at least, he started doing it a couple times once we got to know each other better). Now this guy immigrated from India, so he probably genuinely doesn't understand that just because he hears it in rap doesn't mean it's ok to say. But I didn't explain that to him, because it was too awkward to me.

    You know, to honor MLK, I think I'm gonna talk to both my uncle and my friend about the reasons both those words are hurtful and inappropriate. Thanks for posting those quotes from the article, Merk. They definitely inspire and chastize. None of us is perfect, and we all have a long way to go, no matter how shocked or uncomfortable we can be.
     
  10. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 9

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    Follow-up: I've sent messages to my uncle and Destiny buddy. It was really awkward to send them, but better that I feel a little awkward than for them to keep saying it, especially if they say it around a black person who it might really hurt.

    Hopefully it goes ok. Makes me nervous... Now I am feeling like I can only imagine what black people feel when some non black person says it around them and they have to decide whether to say something (in addition to the fact that they will feel hurt and maybe even threatened by the word, depending on how it's said).

    Hey, does anyone know any really good documentaries about MLK, btw? I am feeling like I should actually honor the day, not just be happy there are sales.
     
  11. SateleNovelist11

    SateleNovelist11 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    He had a powerful way with words. He summed up Muhammad Ali's character and the example anyone should follow if an unjust war is being waged.


    I second everything you said, Solojones. Here's an old History Channel documentary about MLK's later goals.


    I must say that it's wonderful to listen to him talk. He's far more eloquent than nasty Trump.
     
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  12. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 9

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    I'll have to watch that video.

    I'm now playing Fortnite with my Destiny friend pleasantly after confronting him. He didn't actually reply, but I saw that he read it, and he is not using the n word in our match anymore.

    My uncle texted back saying he was sorry he used that word, that he had black friends from work and knows they wouldn't like it either. He said he'll try to do better at not using it from now on.

    So, hopefully, maybe another small victory for MLK. Baby steps.
     
  13. Juliet316

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