PT RANDOM CONTENT AND "WHAT IF?" DEPOT

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  1. SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus

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    Not even close to hand-waving a chance-cube.
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  2. Garrett Atkins Jedi Knight

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    Why do midichlorians suck so much?
  3. Vthuil Force Ghost

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    Is that rhetorical complaining, or are you asking exactly why so many people hate the idea?
  4. Garrett Atkins Jedi Knight

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    I don't understand their point. They kind of contadict what Obi-Wan lays out for us in ANH.
  5. timmoishere Jedi Grand Master

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    Not really. The midi-chlorians merely help one access the Force. The mystery of the Force itself isn't changed by the existence of midi-chlorians.
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  6. Amiga_500_User Jedi Knight

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    Quite the opposite: the mystery is crushed by trying to explain a mystical thing via biology. It's boggles the mind and I still cannot understand why Lucas felt the need for including this. The Force is perfectly explained by Yoda in EMPIRE and we really didn't need another explanation, especially one that tries to be grounded in reality.
  7. Vthuil Force Ghost

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    I certainly don't see what they were supposed to add to the story. There's surely easier ways of saying "Anakin's really strong in the Force".
  8. SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus

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    Enough with the midichlorians.

    That horse has been beaten to death, years ago...
  9. Padawan Fangirl Jedi Padawan

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    What's the name of the song playing when the 501st marches on the Jedi Temple? :confused:
  10. Force Smuggler Force Ghost

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    Love Pledge and the Arena from AOTC
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  11. Oberst Hans Landa Jedi Knight

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    Hi, everyone:

    I am currently reading Shadows of the Empire, my first EU book ever, and this part got me thinking:


    Judging by the events shown in Revenge of the Sith, it seems to me that the suit Vader wears had already been made when Anakin is rescued by the Emperor. If so, why would they have made it before? And if not, where does this suit even come from? Who made it? Who designed it? [face_dunno]

    Has it ever been explained where the suit comes from? Are there other suits like that?

    I always believed, and perhaps I was wrong, that Vader's suit was one of a kind, and maybe it is, but given the fact that apparently 5 or 15 minutes after Anakin is rescued, he's already wearing the mask and the suit… was it more like: Oh, you're just gonna have to wear this suit we had lying around here?


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  12. Lulu Mars Jedi Grand Master

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    I just assume that it's an ancient Sith space suit outfitted with a life support system.
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  13. Oberst Hans Landa Jedi Knight

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  14. Jedi General Gelderd Jedi Master

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    Good question Obserst.... got me thinking, there could be some exciting stories behind the suit itself, if it possibly used to belong to Darth Sidious himself or something, with deep ties to the Sith. (But that's too convenient that him and a young Anakin are the same height!)


    (Although saying that, he was just a stump so could have been made to fit any suit size really....)


    Hmm... [face_thinking]
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  15. DARTHLINK Jedi Master

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    OK, reading that excerpt gave me a visual image of a charred Vader with no clothes sitting in his chair. Yeah, thanks book. Thanks for the image.

    In all seriousness, I, too, figured it was some kind of old Sith armor that was outfitted to serve a dual purpose of a life support system.
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  16. Seagoat Music and PT Section Sentinel

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    @Oberst Hans Landa Well for one, he was Vader since his knighting from Palpatine. Doesn't matter what he's wearing or how many limbs he has

    But what isn't shown in ROTS is that the reconstruction of Vader and the birth of the twins is over a period of several days, according to EU sources. That's plenty of time to construct the life support suit, especially considering that it was intentionally poor quality. Though I don't know what the quote you posted has to do with this topic. The chambers in which Vader can remove his suit were specifically designed for him after ROTS. Aside from that, I doubt he's the only one in a galaxy of trillions with breathing problems. It was probably already standard medical technology (the chambers, that is. There could be suits similar to Vader's, but his is its only kind)
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  17. Darthmaul208 Jedi Master

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    don't forget tractor-the guy from empire.
  18. dolphin Jedi Grand Master

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    Opera scene in ROTS?

    What the heck am I looking at?


    I see suspended globs of water and wispy creatures(?) going in and out. Bad CGI?
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  19. SlashMan Jedi Master

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    I wouldn't call it bad CGI. It's not that I immediately knew I was looking at something computer generated... it's just that I didn't know what I was looking at. Though the explanation is that it's the Mon Calamari species, and they're performing an acrobatic opera. Seemed kinda weird to me, but I bet if aliens saw some of our performing arts, they'd think the same.
  20. timmoishere Jedi Grand Master

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    It's a globe of water suspended in zero-gravity, with the acrobats diving through it. Pretty neat.
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  21. dolphin Jedi Grand Master

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    Wow, so we actually have footage of Mon Calamari in their native habitat (water)? Too bad I can't really make it out.
  22. Darth Dominikkus Jedi Knight

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    I've always been curios about that same scene @dolphin. It made me feel uncomfortable as well.
  23. TheMohawkNinja Jedi Youngling

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    In episode III, what is the name of the communications device that Obi-Wan gives to R2-D2 inside the Invisible Hand?
  24. Garrett Atkins Jedi Knight

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  25. SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus

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    As I recall, there were more than a few fans who were convinced that Palpatine made Anakin simply because the Mon Cal Opera looked liked egg-fertilization. ;)
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