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Randy Johnson possibly coming back to Arizona!!!

Discussion in 'Archive: The Arena' started by Armenian_Jedi, Dec 25, 2006.

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  1. Armenian_Jedi

    Armenian_Jedi Jedi Master star 7

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    [link=http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2708203]words can't explain how excited I am![/link]



    I don't care if he goes 10-14 with a 4.50 ERA with us next year... as long as he's back here.
     
  2. DarkPrince

    DarkPrince Jedi Padawan star 4

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    From the article, it sounds like he's waiting for the Yankees to say something before he does anything. According to the article about this on yankees.com, it sounds like it's possible he'll report to Spring-training come February.

    [link=http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061225&content_id=1767666&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy]Report: Yanks discuss dealing Johnson[/link]

    It seems he has one more year on his contract with the Yankees. If nothing goes down before spring training starts, then he's staying in New York as he is owed $16 mil for next year. Right now, I would consider this all speculation unless the Yankees say something. Talks are in early stages apparently.
     
  3. Armenian_Jedi

    Armenian_Jedi Jedi Master star 7

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    it's not speculation... Arizona's offered a trade proposal.

    "In the past week the Arizona Diamondbacks have offered a package of players to the New York Yankees in exchange for Randy Johnson, a baseball official said."

    the trade's already on the table... it's not speculation.
     
  4. Rogue...Jedi

    Rogue...Jedi Administrator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    A great player, future Hall of Famer... but is he going to be worth what it takes to get him? Doubtful.
     
  5. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral VIP star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    That would depend on how you measure worth. In wins and losses? Probably not worth it. In ERA? Probably not worth it. In getting fans to buy tickets and merchandise? More than worth it.
     
  6. Rogue...Jedi

    Rogue...Jedi Administrator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    But how much long term tickets/merchandise potential do you end up losing to get more ticket/merchandise sales for one year? Maybe not quite as much monetarily, but combined with the on field losses, probably overall not worth it.
     
  7. JOHNNY-B

    JOHNNY-B Jedi Youngling star 2

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    That's a bad move for them...Considering he's in the twilight of his career, and is no longer the pitcher that he once was. He's just the shell of his former self. An average pitcher at best. Coming back to the national league might help his #'s out some what, but I can't see it making that big diffrence. I don't know the full scope on this deal, but I know I wouldn't pay alot of money for someone who is at best going to put up sub-par #'s. There better of building there team around there young talented farm system -- I've heard they have a few future stars in the making... In Steven Drew and Justin Upton...
     
  8. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral VIP star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Isn't Randy Johnson a great fit to bring in if you have a couple of young stars in the making? Who better to learn from than a guy who was highly touted as a youngster, learned how to control it, and then became a World Series (co-)MVP?

    I still think if the Yanks are willing, you make the trade if you're the Diamondbacks. Excite the fanbase, bring back a legend, and become competitive
     
  9. JOHNNY-B

    JOHNNY-B Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Randy Johnson is a big question mark. If I'm not mistaken he has a blow back, and missed few games last year becuase of his durability. Are you really willing to give up some of your top prospects for someone who is iffy at best? I mean how competitive can you be if he's on the DL? There is to many question marks surrounding his health and durability. His age is catching up to him...he's at best good for one more season...two pushing it. The way I see: It's a high risk, high reward. If he comes back healthy, he'll put up respectable #'s; and help the young guys out alot... But if he doesn't, and his health becomes and issue...your in big trouble.
     
  10. GRAND_MOFF_KEVIN

    GRAND_MOFF_KEVIN Jedi Master star 5

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    Randy Johnson is not the Randy Johnson he was when Arizona won the world series. His time is coming to a close.
     
  11. chiss_man

    chiss_man Jedi Master star 6

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    He's 43 and has a bad back.

    ...yeah good luck with that.
     
  12. Baron-Soontir-Fel

    Baron-Soontir-Fel Jedi Knight star 5

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    Fixed.

    (I just had to make that point more emphatic :p).

    Anyone who takes Johnson without having the Yankees pay almost all the salary and taking an A-level pitcher is a moron who deserves to be fired.
     
  13. Rogue...Jedi

    Rogue...Jedi Administrator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    You know, in a poll asking whether or not the D'backs should trade for Randy Johnson, when the state that votes "yes" by the largest percentile margin is New York, that clearly, the Yankees are going to get far more than his worth :p
     
  14. JediANGELA

    JediANGELA Jedi Master star 6

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    You can have him all you want in Arizona. I saw him pitch twice last season in person, horrible pitching. He's no longer the powerhouse that he once was. You can have him with my blessing.
     
  15. DarthIntegral

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    [link=http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2720413]Tentative Deal Agreed To[/link]

    Looks like it will become a reality. I still like the move for Arizona, if only from a PR standpoint.
     
  16. Shadow_of_Durron

    Shadow_of_Durron Jedi Knight star 6

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    I was really hoping the Yanks would stick with him, paying him that huge salary as he continued to decline, wasting more and more money and yet again fail to win the Series. That brought me amusement. :p
     
  17. Baron-Soontir-Fel

    Baron-Soontir-Fel Jedi Knight star 5

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    They're giving up a decent prospect and some other guys yet are getting the Yankees to only contribute $2 million. Arizona got hosed.
     
  18. chiss_man

    chiss_man Jedi Master star 6

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    Agreed. Bad move for Arizona.
     
  19. Rogue...Jedi

    Rogue...Jedi Administrator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, if the Yanks were playing more of his salary (say at least half), it would have been ok. But with Arizona paying $14 million out of the $16 million, the Yankees clearly got the better of the deal.
     
  20. ObiWan506

    ObiWan506 Former Head Admin star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    They did, but they got Randy Johnson. He's a reminder of the team that was only a few years ago. Plus, I think the Yankees and the Diamondbacks are taking this to a personal level. :p
     
  21. Master_Kast7

    Master_Kast7 Jedi Knight star 6

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    The Yankees tossed Randy away because we picked him up to win games in the post-season he did not do so. So they traded him to Arizona because they knew they would want him.




    [hl=black]~Liar, lawyer, Mirror for ya, What's the difference? Kangaroo be stoned, He's guilty as the government~[/hl]
     
  22. ApolloSmileGirl

    ApolloSmileGirl Jedi Knight star 8

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    Like the Yankees are going to suck any less because he's gone.
     
  23. Master_Kast7

    Master_Kast7 Jedi Knight star 6

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    How 'bout them Rangers?



    [hl=black]~Liar, lawyer, Mirror for ya, What's the difference? Kangaroo be stoned, He's guilty as the government~[/hl]
     
  24. Rogue...Jedi

    Rogue...Jedi Administrator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Johnson signs a 2 year, $26 million extension with the D-backs... another brilliant move, take a 43 year old pitcher whos coming off back surgery and has been showing his age very noticeably (unlike, say, Roger Clemens), and give him an extension.

    This story keeps getting better.
     
  25. chiss_man

    chiss_man Jedi Master star 6

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    I mean, I understand bringing back the guy who was the face of the team for so long as a way to put butts in seats and generate interest, but two years? With his detoriation the last year or so? Bad, bad, bad, bad move.
     
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