Census Rate Batman films 1-8

Rises has better actors, but their performances in the movie weren't any better. Hardy did his best, I could tell he was really trying, but he got stuck with a crap character that wears a huge, stupid looking mask over his face that makes his awesome voice sound terrible. The rest were crap.

Visually I prefer B&R, better outrageous, brightly colored, flashy camp than dark, ugly, dark, uninspiring, dark, colorless "realism".

 

Rises from a technical standpoint though is a better made movie. B&R is just poorly done in all aspects - the actors don't care, the costumes are bad, the set pieces are dodgy, the plot is meh, many of the characters are ridiculous and you can't take them seriously (Hardy's problems as Bane notwithstanding, you can't seriously say the steroid Gimp Bane from B&R is better). Schumacher is a bad director with an average record at best, Nolan is not.
Sure I agree Rises is not a great movie, but it's not forever dismissed into the vault of horrors that is Worst Movies of All Time as B&R constantly is. Neither does it deserve to be, Dark Knight set a bar that was very high and it was never going to match that. Rises as a movie has enough going for it to push it above Batman Forever and Returns, simply because those got really stupid even if they were enjoyable in parts.

Prequel hurt seems to happen a lot with TDKRises, just because you had high expectations of it and you came out without those met is not reason to trash the movie as garbage.

88% on RT is not too shabby either (higher than BB is odd to me, but it shows critics regard it as a decent movie), compare that with 12% for B&R and 41% for BF. It's clear the Nolan movies are easily superior to all past live action Batman movies bar the 89 Batman.

 

1. Batman (1966)
2. Mask of the Phantasm
Whatever. Almost everything else
Last. That one old serial where he battles a wizard or something.
Too racist to rank. The first serial.

 

TDK
TDKR
MoTP
BB
B
BF
BR
And I never saw B&R thankfully nor the '66 version.

 

Then you have not lived, I.R.

 

BUT I WANT TO LIIIIIIVE

But is this regarding the '97 one or the '66 one Saintheart?

 

Both, although B&R is a peculiar sort of acquired taste, whereas '66 is just awesome.

 

1. Batman: The Movie
2. Mask of the Phantasm
3. Batman Returns
4. The Dark Knight
5. Batman
6. Batman Begins
7. Batman Forever
8. The Dark Knight Rises/Batman & Robin

 

Batman Begins
Batman (1989)
The Dark Knight
The Dark Knight Returns (If you haven't seen these, fix it)
Mask of the Phantasm
Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker
Batman Returns
The Dark Knight Rises


Batman (1966), Batman Forever, and Batman & Robin have their charms if you're in the right frame of mind, I guess. But none of them belong in a ranking against the real movies, imho.

 

1. The Dark Knight Rises
2. The Dark Knight
3. Batman Begins
...
4. Batman
5. Batman Returns
...
6. Batman Forever
...
7. Batman & Robin

 

I'll admit I liked the old 60's Batman show when I was a kid and I think I remember seeing the movie at least once. But to try and see it now, let alone enjoy it? I think I'd need to be seriously high.

Same thing with Batman & Robin. I'd rather sit through a marathon of TDKR than to suffer sitting through any one scene of that wretched mess.

 

TDK
DKR
Batman 89
BB
Batman Returns
60's Batman
Batman Forever
Batman and Robin

 

Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
Mask of the Phantasm
The Dark Knight Rises
Batman
Batman Forever
Batman Returns
Batman 60s
Batman and Robin

Damn I forgot Return of the Joker and Dark Kight Returns. Ill place them at the same position as TDKR

 

This

 

No love for Baman Piderman?

 

I haven't seen Phantasm in years, since it came out.

 

I don't like the Burton films because I don't like his directing style or aesthetic. Only live-action Burton film I ever enjoyed was Big Fish. Plus, Returns especially has the camp as an "homage" to the 1960's series and aside from the darker tone, it's easy to see why it was followed with something like Forever. Keaton's eyebrows also freak me out.

Yes, there are problems with the first two Nolan entries, but I consider them among the best superhero films-- certainly better than what the Marvelverse assembly line is churning out. Rises took the problems with Dark Knight and magnified them (Batman taking a back seat, hamfisted yet muddled political/social messages, PLOT HOLES GALORE, and Bale's silly "Batman voice"). It's a shame the trilogy ended on a low note. I wonder if Heath Ledger being around to reprise his role would've changed anything. Probably not.

I don't remember Mask of the Phantasm very well though I'm sure I saw it when I was a kid. I really like Return of the Joker. Technically it's Batman Beyond, but it deals heavily with Wayne, Barbara Gordon, and Tim Drake. Plus the "unedited" version contains the most brutal violence I recall seeing in the animated canon. I recently watched Under the Red Hood as well (oh, wait, this one's also brutally violent). That was... strange. I never really liked the supernatural aspects Ra's al Ghul, but they used the Lazarus Pit in a creative way.

 

Yeah the Dark Knight Trilogy is pretty amazing. Much better than any Marvel movies so far. Iron Man could have changed that if they kept the tone of the first film but they just descended into Just For Laughs. Thor was decent and Im eagerly awaiting the second but Captain America was meh. We could have had a pretty decent Superman trilogy but Batman kind of ruins that a bit if they do it wrong.

And I loved Red Hood, perhaps one of the best Animated movies they have put out recently.

 

Geez, it seems at this point Tunick and I are the only ones who enjoyed TDKR. I mean it's not without its issues (and I admittedly have some Nolan fanboyism in me) but to say it's worse than the Schumacher films is hilarious.

 

1.BTAS-there's a handful of episodes better than any of the feature length movies
2.TDK-mostly the Ledger performance is the charm of this one
3.Begins
4.'89-this was the first time I got caught up in the pre release hype for anything. I was 8 and had just got into the comics after watching the '66 series and then the Topps trading cards came and I spent a long time collecting those sets and waiting for the movie to hit theatres.

5.Phantasm
6.Rises- Too long and full of the problems I find with every Nolan film. Hathaway is the highlight.
7.Returns- I like this one well enough

8.Forever-I would like it if I was 7 years old
9.'66 series and film- loved it as a kid. Got me into Batman. Can't stand it anymore and I imagine it would be even worse under the influence

10.All the Batman movies and series I haven't seen

11.Year One- It was a complete waste of my time. It's just a watered down version of the great comics. Which leads me to a question

Really? Why should I? I have the books. What do I need to see another watered down version for?

12.& Robin

 

I loved TDKR, my favourite out of the trilogy followed by TDK

 

TDKR is a confusing acronym as it has always been The Dark Knight Returns not Rises 'til now

 

1) The Dark Knight

2) Batman Begins

3-8) All others