ST Rate TFA from 1 to 10 (you only get 1 vote, so see it as much as you need before voting!)

If people just buy into the concept that the romance is intentionally old-fashioned the dialogue becomes not only more bearable, but a lot of fun in my eyes. AOTC is a 30s film with the veneer of a modern effects blockbuster. It's probably the most daring Star Wars film in a lot of ways.

 

I hear you. I have a friend who was very critical of Lucas about the prequels and after seeing TFA, he was like I owe Lucas an apology.

I have to say the spectrum of reactions to this movie is very interesting.

 

It's not just that, it's that I couldn't follow the reasoning of their supposed romance. Just didn't click for me, and Padme seemed to overlook too much. The dialogue I could actually forgive for the most part. Part of my problem is I just don't like Anakin. At all. What can you do.

 

Padme changing clothes every scene was distracting. Lucas had no grip and thought he was doing a 50s costume drama or something. The bondage gear she wore at night in Naboo with Anakin was just cringy and bad.

 

Perfectly reasonable. Maybe I've just watched too much Turner Classic Movies, but there are so many films from that era where boy meets girl and for whatever hollow, vapid reason the next thing you know they're willing to die for one another. I can totally relate to Padme's rationale being a little murky, but I think the clues are there, but there's no doubt that her feelings are underplayed. Anakin is like James Dean in Rebel Without a Cause. I just love his quiet intensity and I think he really knocks it out of the park when he has to(the confession scene and his argument with Obi aboard the gunship).

 

I actually love that. Her costume reveals her true feelings. It's a great piece of visual storytelling.

 

Bah, you're going to make me watch it again.

Maybe after I catch TFA one more time

 

As a hardcore SW fan, I'd give it a 9. No SW movie for me gets less than an 8 honestly.

Were I not a hardcore fan, it might be closer to an 8.

 

I rated it a 7 after I first saw it but as I kept seeing it over and over, the more I loved it. I gotta give it a solid 9. I dont see how JJ Abrams couldve done a much better job, IMO

 

I think anything between a 6 and a 9 is fair. I can't understand giving it a 1 at all. I definitely think that it's closest to ANH and ESB in terms of quality.

 

If only something creative thing was done with Starkiller Base I would of give it a 10. SKB is the only thing making me pick 9.

 

Which is considerably lower than, say, IMDb's score of 8.4 (based on the votes of 400,000+ users). Interesting.

 

Solid 9.
It has everything I asked for in a SW movie. There's undertone romance for my Reylo. Cute humor between bb8 n Finn. The intro was just one of the best ever n the lightsaber duel was so raw n emotional. It had 1 point taken because it had bad lines from Leia that felt really outta place but overall awesome movie.

 

Median is 8, % of votes 7 or higher is 79%.

 

Her costume reveals her true feelings?? Right. You know who doesn't think it's good storytelling to imply that even if a woman is saying no, her clothes show that she's saying yes? Women. Before you even take into account "reasonable men", that's fifty percent of the population who will see that scene as utterly idiotic and irresponsible.

But don't take my word for it, anakinfansince1983 has posted for more succinctly on the subject than I could.

I mean, there's looking through rose tinted glasses, and then there's apologism for absolutely indefensible writing that treats women as objects who's only reason to give a perfunctory no is so the hero can be shown as being charming enough to not give up.

Absolutely indefensible.

 

I think you're being hyperbolic here. The fireplace scene doesn't depict Anakin taking advantage of Padme in anyway. When Padme makes the argument that their relationship simply isn't viable, Anakin concedes that she's right. I think Padme's costume is being used as a visual tool to reveal that she does harbor sexual desire for Anakin. NOW does that mean Anakin has the right to take that and run with it? No, absolutely not, but part of cinema is using visuals to convey a story. Costumes can and do have significance. It's not treating Padme as an object to acknowledge certain cinematic truths. And Padme in AOTC is far from a sexual object. She is the one that takes charge in Obi-Wan's rescue. She's the one that decides to take their relationship to the next level. She's the one that unchains herself and is able to hold her own in the arena. She is sexualized, but there's a greater narrative purpose to it. It's not gratuitous like a Michael Bay film.

 

Completely disagree. And I really think it's a stretch to see subtlety or genius in "we can show what Padme's real feelings are by, er...dressing her in bondage gear"

How about showing real feelings by writing good dialogue and directing the actors to believably show nuance and subtext?

 

A solid 9.

My second favorite film behind ESB

 

I think dialogue in film is overrated. Silent films said so much with their imagery alone and Lucas has often compared the nature of Star Wars to that of a silent film. The guy is a visual storyteller, dialogue for him is largely an after-thought, so when someone is dressed a certain way in Star Wars be sure there is an artistic intent to it.

 

Dialogue for him is indeed an afterthought. You don't need to buy into that being a good thing though. For dialogue to be functional, It has to work: poor dialogue dominates a film more than natural dialogue. If George truly wanted to tell the scene visually, he needed to get the dialogue sorted so that the jarring dialogue didn't detract from the visuals.

 

The dialogue to me is functional and it's fun in an overwrought cheesy way. I just really enjoy the stageplay-ness of both AOTC and ROTS.

 

I gave TFA a 9/10 - for being a wonderful breath of fresh air to the SW franchise, by perfectly blending both the older legends with the new characters, although that Starkiller Base is a disappointment (preventing me from giving a perfect 10)!

 

I gave it a solid 9 I loved it is probably my favourite Star Wars of all time I was on the edge of my seat the entire time

 

EDIT: Thinking about it, I still think TFA deserves at least a low 7/10.

 

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