ST Rate TFA from 1 to 10 (you only get 1 vote, so see it as much as you need before voting!)

I think you GREATLY overestimate message boards being a dying breed.

 

Kylo's tantrum didn't make him look pathetic. It made him look pissed! When i saw that on day one in the theater people in the audience were laughing and clapping. At least he's not being as whiny as Anakin. Besides if vader had got all pissed and lost control he probably would have had an Asthma attack or something considering his wretched health. You know what with being burned alive in a volcano and having his lungs char broiled.

 

Welcoming? LMAO! Please! When I came into this fandom I was quickly introduced to the likes of you, who follows me from thread to thread, trolling and bashing everything I like. Joining this fandom I was scared for years to put a PT film at the top of my list thanks to people like you. OT purists may be the least welcoming creatures in any fandom.

 

"Vader was always calm"
Not when he was a young man he wasn't. Didn't he stupidly think he could do a triple somersault over Obi-Wan?

That almost brought a tear to the eye. It's like an epic tale of woe, with Jarren standing triumphant in the end!

 

Given that there'll be a new movie every 12 months for the foreseeable future, even if we held a poll on Dec 18, 2016, you'll still get relatively new fans participating. SW as a fossilised fandom is no longer an option. So the results will always be "tainted" in that sense.

 

Whoa, I go away for the day and then come back to attempted gatekeeping. Lovely.

By the way, a metric buttload of the new posters are loudly proudly anti-TFA, so even if one could subtract them out, I'm not sure it would reinforce your theory.

 

There is almost no one who is "loudly proudly anti-TFA". Certainly not in the new people department. Nice try

 

LOL, I guess I've just been arguing with bots for the last 5 months. And yeah, there are some very loud and proud anti-TFA people here. We got a whole thread full of them.

 

From what I've seen today, you have about 30 people arguing against 1 person. So you may have the odd disagreer, but then the mob descends and you think your opponents are many.

 

Joke's on you, mate. It's phase one of Microsoft's AI test run. We all know how phase two turned out...

 

Too much salt here. I'm hardly new to Star Wars fandom.

 

Agree. Being new to this forum does not mean new to Star Wars. The re-emergence of new stories and the rebirth of the franchise has brought many of the oldest fans back out to participate in discussions. Some have changed sites. I have tools older than some posters who have more time here than I, but I guarantee you all, my being an avid fan did not start when I joined.

 

6 or 7, I'll go 6.5 and round up

 

(NOW) I'd give it a 6/10..

 

I voted 9 or 10 - I can't remember now.

I've gotten the impression that OT era fans have liked TFA more than other eras, including me. But I've also seen a great deal of other eras/generations like it as well.

 

Agreed. If you head over to the TFA poll on the prequels forum, an overwhelming majority there loved TFA as well. It's a myth that the film has somehow "split the fandom." Truth is, it is disliked by an extraordinarily small minority of fans.

 

A myth you say? Oh reddit disagrees with you, and there tends to be way more people on there too than the forums. It split the fanbase, but in a more distant and sexually lustful way..

Seems like every since TFA has come out, polls seem to be the biggest talk....

 

I think it is the "vocal minority" that you re speaking of. Very loud and very small.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/main/vocalminority#!

 

I decided on a 4/10, about the same I would give AOTC, and a point or so less than I would give TPM.

I could justify giving it a 5/10, as I could say it deserves a failing grade, but only just barely. It's not that it's extremely painfully bad (besides a few times), it's just that it's never good. The vast majority of it is just bleh. It is, at its best, meh, with perhaps a very slight upturned smile.

I could also justify giving it as low as a 1/10, for failing at almost everything it attempts, in so many different ways, so very often. Part of me wants to give it credit for it's allegedly "fun" approach, but the attempts at fun are so often poorly executed and fail to entertain me. The obvious lack of originality and terribly shallow "twists" on the Star Wars saga makes it impossible for me to fully appreciate even the attempt at a fun approach. I can't say I'm at all pleased with where the storyline went, either.

Its attempts at humor and similar gags are pretty much all failures, but not as terribly misguided as Jar Jar.

It's attempt at entertaining action are almost all resoundingly meh, including all the lightsaber stuff, most of the space ship battle stuff, and much of the ground battles.

It's dialogue is very often off the mark, but usually only slightly, with only minor tweaks needed. It's rarely as bad as the worst dialogue of the PT.

None of the characters are real successes, for me, but most aren't total disasters.

Rey is a sort of wish fulfillment cardboard cutout without any personality, but Daisy Ridley brings a sort of enthusiasm and energy that shines through. The illogical Force and lightsaber use are quite eyeroll worthy, but not a flaw belonging solely to her, such problems occur throughout the movie.

Finn is a character who could have been quite good, if not for a painfully flawed premise that is difficult to swallow, and a few weak attempts at humor that could have been better. Unfortunately, Finn comes off as a bit of an undignified doofus. Still, John Boyega makes the most of what's he's given.

Han Solo isn't quite himself, despite Harrison's best efforts. It needed a few dialogue tweaks.

Once again, Carrie isn't given much to do with Leia, but gives the movie perhaps it's most genuine emotional moment.

Unfortunately, most of the scenes between Han and Leia are quite artificial, full of exposition and stilted dialogue. That was disappointing.

Kylo Ren is a total disaster of a character. He's a complete joke, who did absolutely nothing for me. The one, and I mean only one, tiny bit of entertainment he provided me with was the stopping of the blaster bolt in midair (which was legitimately awesome). The rest of his existence is an annoyance to me.

Poe Dameron is a failure of a character, but only a minor failure. He's just not what he's supposed to be. He's supposed to be some cool action guy, he's just not. I suppose it's not Isaac's fault, as he wasn't given anything. The movie absolutely starts with the premise that he is just awesome and you'll automatically like him, so they just skip the part where he is cool or anything worth watching. They put it in the opening scrawl, and that was it. (all my opinion, of course)

I actually like Maz, though. She worked for me, mostly.

Snoke is hardly worth mentioning at this point, but the visual design was interesting enough for me.

I don't know what to say about the score, other than I don't think I noticed it the entire movie. I can't remember a single bit of it. That says enough for me.

Of course, the plot and storyline is all extremely tired and unoriginal, and is taken in a direction that is annoyingly unnatural. The First Order have a few neat little details, but are still an Empire retread, and the Resistance is so completely entirely tired.

Finn's intro is so nonsensical and painfully obvious, as is Poe's, to the point that I was ready to turn it off ten minutes into the movie. It really wasn't looking good. The escape in the TIE fighter is more fun, though also a bit stupid. It picks up with Rey and Daisy's energy, though Rey, like Finn, is similarly lacking in consistent behavior and compelling motivation.

Rey meets Finn is pretty cute, and their escape is good fun. That whole sequence is easily the best part of the movie. Still, held back by Finn's How Do I Work Guns?

The whole gang and rathtar attack on Han's large freighter did nothing for me. It's not horrible, it just did nothing. It's better, I guess, when they get back on the Falcon. A huge waste of those dudes from The Raid.

The scenes on Takodana didn't do much for me. The cantina rehash was uninspired, and the call to the lightsaber and ensuing visions were pure nonsense. Just awful. The attack on Takodana by the First Order is better, but full of flaws.

Rey's scenes with Kylo are just painfully bad.

The super weapon is, of course, extremely tired, and too far on the nose (it literally drains light from the universe) even for Star Wars. The attack on Starkiller Base is once again tired, with nothing to recommend it. It's hard to believe X-Wings vs TIE fighters could be so boring and uninspired.

The confrontation between Han and Kylo was a total failure for me. I felt nothing, not even as a character I love is killed.

The duels at the end are okay, but nothing special.

The scene with Luke as Rey holds out the lightsaber is just pointlessly long. Was that supposed to do something for me? Was I supposed to be wowed? I wasn't. Shoulda cut it much sooner, though that wouldn't have accomplished anything other than eliminating the drag.

The light vs dark theme is so painfully ham-fisted and overdone, and of course, old and tired. But just work in the word "light" as many times as you can, in case we forgot in the two minutes since the last reference.

And, of course, the constant nostalgia mining is a mostly a huge drag (though I did like Rey inheriting the Falcon) and the terribly shallow "twists" so very typical of JJ are downright annoying.

 

Jabba, that is NOT the "truth". Maybe the naysayers are like me and tend not to come here that much anymore. I personally know way more people that didn't like, and were disappointed with TFA. Truth is, you state assumptions as fact based on your limited experience based solely on the (generally TFA loving and not allowed to say bad things about it) TF.N boards.

 

If it helps you sleep better.

 

Take a look at the poll on the prequel forums.

Take a look at the poll on the prequel forums.

 

I agree with these parts.