Full Series Rebels 1.11 - Idiot's Array - Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Which is one reason why I am hoping they introduce new ships for the Empire other than just the typical Star Destroyers, the Executor, and the various different TIE Fighters.

 

That would be amazing I sometimes wish the empire kept the old clone wars ships.

 

I'm not that crazy over Star Wars Rebels, but I was very pleased with this episode! Really enjoyed it!

 

Did Lando Convince you.

 

Jedi Knight Fett

Early on, the Imperial navy continued to use Clone Wars-era equipment. The novel Tarkin talks about the Imperial Navy still utilizing old Venator-class Star Destroyers a few years after the Clone Wars ended, and Vader was apparently still flying a Eta-2 starfighter at the same time.

It makes sense, really. As long as the equipment is serviceable and not obsolete in capability, it makes sense to keep using it until you can afford to replace it.

 

With cheaper things that were death sentences ya..

 

Jedi Knight Fett

Well, while TIEs were fragile, the Imperial I class was far superior to the Venator class in most ways.

And to be honest, the Republic ARC-170s, Z-95s and V-19 Torrents died by the bucket loads facing droid fighters, so I'm not entirely sure the TIE was a significant downgrade in survivability.

 

Point taken

 

I think the Venators and Acclamators should have seen much more use under the Empire. You don't just throw away perfectly good ships, especially not the big and expensive ones. The Imperial-class was still in use some 20+ years ABY, and even in real life we had a whole bunch of WWII-era ships that served up into the 1970's. The Clone Wars-era ships would only have been 3 years old at most and would still have been very new ships.

 

One doesn't need to look any further than the Iowa Class Battleships that served in WWII, the Korean War, and the Gulf War (USS Missouri and USS Wisconsin). Granted they were decommissioned and recommissioned a couple of times.

 

The US navy taking recycling to the next level.

 

It could very well be that as more of the Imperial I classes came online, the older Acclamator and Venator class ships were retired, mothballed or sent out to low priority or backwater commands. Meanwhile, the Imperial I class ships got put into the more premier commands and "hot zones" where combat was more likely. I would favor the retire approach in the long-run.

At a certain point, even if the the older ships are space-worthy, you need to retire them for logistical reasons. It helps simplify your logistical chain, among other things. Trying to keep multiple classes of ships functional and combat-ready requires multiple sets of spare parts to be stored at your supply/maintenance facilities. Retiring an entire class means you don't have to worry about keeping those specific parts in stock any longer. For a galaxy-spanning navy this would probably be very important.

 

Could be I wonder when they phased them out.

 

Best episode yet. Lando's introduction was GOLD. His design was a bit off for me for some reason. But other than that, loved it!

 

Ya his animation was a bit iffy.

 

Getting around to getting caught up. I kinda felt like introducing Lando within the first 13 episodes was kinda goofy. The episode is mostly just goofy funny which is mostly where it redeems itself. Lando himself was entertaining although I have to say his model was really kind of crude. First with Kanan and Zeb getting up to the manly business of gambling Chopper. I think this was supposed to spark of some nostalgia for ANH's cantina scene where we first meet Han. But its just not executed correctly to do it for me. I got a kick out of seeing Hera nearly beat the snot out on Kanan and later punching Lando. I was very surprised to see the show tackle the idea of trading meat. Good to see Rebels is the exact opposite of toned down. I kinda thought the design of the puffer pig was ridiculous even though it was supposed to introduce an element of challenge and the big bad in this one was meh. I wasn't under the impression before that Kanan needed to lean Hera was usefuly and was misogynist. The episode does a good job of twisting back and forth between who is owning who. That, the goofiness, and Lando being entertaining will earn it half a score.I'll give it a 5. It may be one of my least favorite episodes so far.

 

My fave part of the ep is Hera's nutshot on Lando. Didn't think I'd ever see that in Star Wars.

 

Yeah, that was nutty.

 

Do I need to repost that panel of Leia kneeing Xizor in the groin?

 

I tell you what though, given how effortlessly Hera dealt with those goons on that Jabba-wannabe's ship, and looked damn cool doing it, if there's much more of that I wonder how long before some people start decrying her as a Mary Sue, an authorial pet etc.

 

Do it! SOTE was an odd thing.

 

Oh go no.

 

Yeah. Hera is NOT a mary sue character. Ezra's more of a mary sue than her.

 

I didn't say she was.

 

I don't see it happening, because the term is really just such a transparent way of complaining about a character, and people generally seem to like Hera even if they dislike the show.