Discussion in 'Star Wars TV' started by Swashbucklingjedi, Oct 22, 2013.
I see those people as not boxed in to the idea that there are two sides to every story, including fictional ones.
About Episode ideas, I want to see Yularen and I want the fact that the Clone Wars happened to be mentioned. I'd love hear, "We thought the Seps were bad, but the Empire's far worse."
As long as it's still clear the Empire is still far worse than the rebels. If that isn't made clear then that does detract from the story IMO.
Watching Return of the Jedi; YES!!! The group of a-hole war criminals with more character development won over the other group of a-hole war criminals with less character development....Uh yay?
I definitely think the Empire should be portrayed as the "worse" side; I just don't particularly want one-dimensional characters or sides that are "all good" or "all bad".
Here's an episode idea: a zilo beast clone.
Excellent idea, unless they finish that up in TCW bonus episodes.
With the series being placed so close to ANH, I'd like to see at least one storyline dealing with Luke and any interaction Obi-Wan may have covertly had with him. The line where Obi-Wan says "I understand you've become quite a pilot yourself" has always held my curiosity. Maybe some womp rat action in the ol' T-16?
Another example of EU literature I wouldn't mind showing up in this series.
I hope you're joking....
Why do I get the sinking feeling they're taking all the unused/pre-production Clone Wars ideas and awkwardly pushing it into Rebels?
An episode where Vader goes on a rampage
I think the Empire needs to be portrayed as secretly evil. Kind of like The Governor and his town in The Walking Dead. They do heinous things, but it's always covered up and his followers have faith in him.
Now, moreso than TCW, I hope Filoni has a road map for this series and that it actually concludes with a definitive ending rather than a "well, we're going to end this show abruptly and move onto something else" ending.
The show takes place 4 years prior to ANH and by the time of ANH there is quite a bit of sympathy in the Imperial Senate, so I suspect that the Empire slips up and some people begin to see just how awful it is.
When the show begins I could see the Rebellion as being pitifully small and having little support since the majority of the population has faith in the Empire, but that as time goes on and events move closer to ANH, Rebel sympathy begins to increase forcing the Empire to crack down harder, which then just compounds the problem ("The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers").
I can't really come up with many episode ideas specifically, since I don't know anything about the cast.
Have this guy show up:
So it can be used
I'm a big fan of showing the positives of the Empire personally.
You know how the US Military puts out news about their positive humanitarian doings?
The Empire should be seen putting out similar stuff. "Propaganda" you may call it, since we know how nasty they really are, but hey they don't want people to think they're evil.
Some stories I'd like to see in Rebels:
Luke and Leia displaying Force ability in their childhoods; dreams of their parents, especially a haunting figure of Vader. Maybe an episode based on Leia's "seas of sand" dreams from the EU.
Vader+uber Force power+multiple enemies = rampage. Seriously, write the script for that episode ASAP
Vader visiting the old Jedi Temple. Memories of Anakin and Padme.
Ashoka dying at the hands of Vader.
More Darth Sidious in combat.
Possibility of another Skywalker.
Darth Maul *finally* dies/killed.
I briefly mentioned it in the general Rebels discussion thread, but I would not be against the idea of the Rebels depicted as actually having some success in organizing a resistance, but then losing it all in one decisive battle in the series' climax, leaving the Rebel Alliance in the pitifully weak state that they are in by ANH (30 rebel fighters in a relatively small base on Yavin against the Death Star). I would actually very much like to see that kind of "could have won but lost tragically kind of defeat," if handled well.
For instance, in the TV show Rome they refer to a battle (I forget the name) in which Pompei Magnus has Caesar surrounded and outnumbered, but that mistakes made in the battle lost Pompei that decisive victory, his army was completely routed and scattered, and then he fled to Egypt looking to raise a new army but was killed on arrival.
Or when the leader of Japan in the late 16th century died, Toyotomi Hideyoshi, he left a child heir (Toyotomi Hideyori). Tokugawa Ieyasu took control instead and had himself made shogun. When Hideyori grew up, he began forming a coalition of samurai against Tokugawa's rule, but they were wiped out by Tokugawa's forces.
I feel like they could do something similar to these kinds of tragic losses.
For instance, establish that the CIS never completely went away, and that there were pockets of resistance still being hunted down during the Dark Times; there are also Jedi survivors of Order 66 that Vader and the Inquisitors are trying to deal with; we also know from the ROTS cutscenes that there are at least 2,000 dissatisfied senators that are displeased with Palpatine accruing executive powers and establishing a system of Moffs.
The Moff system in itself reminds me of the rise of the samurai eclipsing the power of the centrally appointed nobility. Japan was in a civil war and the Emperor appointed a Shogun to lead the military against the Taira clan. The Shogun then began to appoint military governors in the provinces that were meant to coordinate recruitment and training of troops but still leave the day-to-day civil matters to centrally appointed bureaucrats. But overtime the Shogun's power eclipsed that of the Emperor and his military governors took control from the nobility, similar to how Moffs take direct control of their systems in ANH once Palpatine disbands the senate.
Filoni has also mentioned that during this time that stormtroopers are mostly volunteers and that some of the clones became disillusioned with the Empire, while some stayed on to train the new recruits.
So like Pompei having an army to try and oust the dictator Julius Caesar only to lose; or like Hideyori raising an anti-Tokugawa army to reclaim power from the usurper only to be crushed, I coule be interested in seeing disgruntled senators like Bail raising a coalition composed of CIS remnants, Jedi remnants, local security forces from planets opposed to the Empire, disillusioned clones, etc. This army goes all out against the Imperial Forces in one decisive battle that in the initial stages could go either way, but then perhaps corruption within the anti-Imperial coalition leads to turncoats jumping sides which turns the battle into a decisive victory for the Empire, with many of the last remaining Jedi, Jango clones, and CIS remnant being annihilated.
An arc about a disturbingly evil rebel group and some good rebels being forced to work with them for a common goal.
How could this work? I'm pretty sure the only people who knew there were twins at this point were there at the birth.
I have an idea, it could use some work though.
It starts off on a cloudy day on a pretty civilized planet. Boba fett in full armor and everything walks into a cantina. He asks
For a name. The bartender asks him "what's it to ya?" then Fett just starts ****ing **** up. With ****ing Michael bay explosions going off.
And mother ****ing lasers going everywhere. Bodies flying everywhere. Then boba walks away like a badass as the cantina blows up behind him.
^ Just remember this:
A look into Vader's fortress and his scientific experiments with immortality (trying to bring Padme's corpse back to life, or trying to clone her, or even trying to reanimate the corpse of Plagueis [if a corpse]).
A regular look at Princess Leia, uber heroine and rebel spy. Maybe see that her talent for spying is related to her force abilities. I'm not sure what age she'll be in Rebels, but even if young, we could see what her life is like on Alderaan.
Vader vs. the resurgent Dathomir witches.
The occasional Obi-Wan Kenobi mission. I don't see why he's always stuck on Tatooine.
Corellia. Plots there. Lots of them.
A plot about an enemy worse than the Empire. Not the Vong, but let's see the Empire defeat someone as bad or worse than them.
Eh, I'll just watch Bounty again.