Discussion Rebels, TCW, and the ST

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode VII - Spoilers Allowed' started by EHT, Feb 24, 2014.

  1. Darth_Pevra Chosen One

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    Oh, but he has a very lighthearted stance when it comes to killing and violence. TCW Anakin is someone I really wouldn't want to cross. So I must disagree that he doesn't come across as a person who couldn't be turned to the dark side.
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  2. EHT Manager: New Films

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    I agree... TCW may have had the luxury of more time to show his character, but I don't really see the inconsistency that some see between Anakin's PT character and his TCW character. He shows a definite streak in TCW that could offer hints of what's to come for him. It just also has more time to show him involved in happy banter, etc. too.
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  3. Mystery Roach Chosen One

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    I think the movies have to nail certain points about Anakin in the limited time they have to do so because they don't want to deviate from the narrative arc of setting up his fall, and overall I think they did a fine job of that, even if some others disagree. So while at first glance, Anakin in TCW seems slightly different from the movie version, I think it's only by virtue of having the breathing room to explore more facets of his character, and taken together they perhaps offer a broader and more balanced view of him. And of course the foreshadowing is there in TCW as well, but it just doesn't have to always be the narrative focus like it does in the movies.
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  4. A Chorus of Disapproval New Films Riot Deterrent

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  5. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    Anakin in the TCW that I've watched has immense repressed rage.
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  6. Darkslayer Force Ghost

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    Not in front of Clovis lol
  7. The Hellhammer 7SA Forum Interrogator

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    I honestly prefer the TCW portrayal of Anakin to that of PT, by a wide margin. I actually like the TCW Anakin.
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  8. Darth Punk Force Ghost

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    He was a fearless general in TCW, but didn't get the chance to lead much in RotS
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  9. Mystery Roach Chosen One

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    That was kind of the point though, wasn't it? The Jedi wouldn't let him lead because they needed him to spy on Palpatine. Of course then he did end up leading the troopers into the Jedi Temple, so there's that.
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  10. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    He lead Jedi to their doom. That counts right?
  11. EHT Manager: New Films

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    Right, that would be rage bubbling over. :p
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  12. Darth PJ Force Ghost

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    I think Ahsoka is portrayed as a character much more likely to venture over into the darkside than Anakin (in TCW). Of course, there is some learnt behavior... but I think Ahsoka is shown to be more of an idealist than Anakin... and is seemingly more compelled to follow her own path. And in terms of Anakin's relationship with Ahsoka, I think he comes across as more of the pragmatist.. and more respectful of Jedi Council orders/chain of command etc. (IMHO). Of course Anakin has a dark streak, but in the cartoon I never really got a sense of a character willing to slaughter innocents (which of course he did in both AOTC and ROTS). His nastiness and his emotonal turmoil, in TCW, is obviously and understandibly played down. So we're left with a much more likeable, and dare I say it, more conventional hero. I'd have liked to have seen Anakin as a full blown hero/Jedi in TPM, but alas, by the time we get to AOTC, Lucas has to condense his heroic/tortured Anakin into circa 4 hours of screen time.
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  13. Darth_Pevra Chosen One

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    I couldn't really believe AOTC Anakin as slaughterer of innocents. He was just a prototypical dumb teenager before he went on a rampage that would make Hannibal Lector proud. Pretty much came out of nowhere, that. When it comes to killing, TCW Anakin would be someone who is more capable of pulling it off than AOTC Anakin who has never really been forced to fight in a war and such. TCW Anakin seems to enjoy killing on occasion. He is less nasty and annoying, but seems more deadly than pre-Tusken Anakin.
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  14. Darth Punk Force Ghost

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    as a native of tatooine, he might have had tusken prejudices, even before his mum got killed by them
  15. StoneRiver Force Ghost

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    In the same way he always hated younglings? ;)

    They're annoying and course.... and they get everywhere
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  16. Darkslayer Force Ghost

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    More like exploding over :p
  17. Darth PJ Force Ghost

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    I can't think of a single episode of TCW where Anakin is depicted as a character who seemingly enjoys killing? Re. the Tusken slaughter. I don't think it came out of nowhere... they just killed his mother... one could argue that's reason enough. The distinction though is that AOTC shows Anakin relishing his barbaric actions. You may not like it, or the way it's handled, but there's nothing in TCW that directly shows Anakin both gleeful at the thought of killing/snuffing out life, yet guilty and conflicted by those very emotions. TCW just never has the remit to go there.
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  18. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    He had a war to fight though.
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  19. Darth_Pevra Chosen One

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    I think we'll have to agree to disagree because obviously our perceptions were completely different.
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  20. DanielUK Jedi Grand Master

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  21. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    Also, different writers too.
  22. Dra--- Chosen One

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    I sort of agree with Pevra and PJ. But that makes sense since most of us agree that we're seeing different aspects of Anakin in TCW and PT. I think what inconstancies we do see can be explained by the fact that more tragic events happen to Anakin in the PT. Thus, in TCW we see more of a baseline Anakin while in the PT we see his extremes.

    I don't think his actions in AOTC are surprising -- after the slaughter, he seems surprised that he enjoyed the brutality of his actions and seems shaken. A dark part of him has come out for the first time, which I think was always there, although the Jedi taught him to repress it. But he reveals before the slaughter that he has a totalitarian mindset, and he enjoys ordering civilians around. Anakin has never fully shed the master identity he learned from Watto.

    But I also recall in the TCW a couple scenes where Anakin releases his rage and we see him act like Vader when Vader tortures or loses his temper (I think from the last couple seasons).
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  23. purplerain Force Ghost

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    Maybe Death Watch will support whoever the ST villain is.
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  24. Darth_Bertie Jedi Grand Master

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    This would be very interesting. I can imagine Luke fighting a couple of death watch warriors, in the way Obi-Wan did with Jango on Kamino.
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  25. EHT Manager: New Films

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    Another note on our canon policy. We updated it with minor changes a few days ago, but we are in the process of updating it again now in light of today's official announcement. It will be published (replacing the existing policy post) soon.

    As always, though, everyone please play nice. [face_peace]

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