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Lit Recanonized EU: A List

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Ordo Skirata, May 1, 2014.

  1. Zeta1127

    Zeta1127 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    There is bound to be a disconnect of some nature when the various units of clone troopers were the backbone of the Grand Army of the Republic, yet the Stormtrooper Corps that were initially the various units of clone troopers eventually end up being separate from that structure, while the Army inherits the GAR structure.
     
  2. JoinTheSchwarz

    JoinTheSchwarz Former Head Admin star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The other place in the new canon where the Army is mentioned is in Servants of the Empire, and there it seems to include the vehicle drivers, mostly (hence the reason Zare and the other cadets are wearing biker pilot helmets). I'd be okay with the Army being basically a "mechanized cavalry" equivalent.
     
  3. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    Lords of the Sith is 8 years after RotS which makes it 7 years before Rebels.

    Honestly, I think it's easier not to make it more complicated than needs to be. No writer is going to remember to treat Stormtroopers as a different branch from the Army before Rebels while making them the same as the Army during Rebels.

    One of the points of the new canon, would be, I think to make things simpler.

    For now, the Stormtroopers are part of the Army, and as far as we know, always have been. The Stormtrooper Corps is either a colloquialism for the Army or a part of the Army.
     
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  4. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    Vehicle Drivers have always been Army. It's in the old visual guides and also mentioned in Essential Guide to Warfare I believe.
     
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  5. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    The Army consisting of a Stomtrooper Corps and a Vehicle Corps seems straightforward and logical to me.
     
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  6. Kablob

    Kablob Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It's actually 5 years after ROTS, it's a bit before Tarkin in the timeline.
    [​IMG]
    The confusion is that the crawl says "eight years after the Clone Wars ravaged the galaxy" which is supposed to mean 8 years after the start of the Clone Wars, but it can easily be misread as 8 years after the end of it.
     
  7. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    I suppose the issue is: Have we EVER seen any ground troopers who weren't Stormtroopers?
     
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  8. A8T

    A8T Jedi Master star 2

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    Well, in Legends there is the Imperial Army Troopers who were supposed to be the most common type of Imperial Solider... so common that you rarely ever see them...
     
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  9. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    So this is five years after ROTS so it takes place around Tarkin.
     
  10. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Yeah, in this case it may be the Imperial Stormtroopers are just the Imperial Infantry and HIGHER RANKS of Stormtroopers have the role of Marines.

    It would go a long way to explaining why they're such garbage on Lothal.

    That and they were trained by a pair of idiots.
     
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  11. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    Naval Troopers in Return of the Jedi. It would seem that Naval Troopers help guard Navy installations like the Endor shield generator.​
    I hope to see more of them in Rebels.
     
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  12. A8T

    A8T Jedi Master star 2

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    To be honest I would not be surprised if the Naval Troopers were changed to security teams in canon. They seem to fill that role more in the movies.
     
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  13. JoinTheSchwarz

    JoinTheSchwarz Former Head Admin star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    As much as I love WEG and their nearly perfect worldbuilding, I think (and I've been thinking for years) the creation of the Imperial Army (as a separate branch from the stormtroopers and somehow way more numerous despite the only member we see in the movies being Veers) was a mistake. I understand the gameplay reasons behind the decision, but it should have stayed there.
     
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  14. Tzizvvt78

    Tzizvvt78 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    According to the Wook, USW has Raxus listed in the Raxus system/Tion Hegemony. That was fast. :)
     
  15. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    I always thought that they were guards. I was surprised when WEG made them troops.
     
  16. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    Part of the job description of a Naval Trooper in the old continuity was security while still being a military type force. I see no need for limiting them strictly to security by changing their name to "Imperial Naval Security". They were supposed to be security in the old canon, while also being able to supplement stormtroopers when needed, repel ship board invaders, and also provide non combat services. The Naval Trooper moniker was never meant to imply they were deployed on ground operations to the extent that stormtroopers were, even in the old continuity. The Navy essentially wanted combat personnel loyal to it. That kind of rivalry makes sense especially in an organization like the Empire.

    It's already bad enough that the Empire essentially has only one kind of ground soldier for major land operations. Without Naval Troopers, they'll only have one type of trooper period. :p The seperatists had battle droids, super battledroids, and droid commandos. The Empire has stormtroopers.

    I look forward to Star Wars Rebels using Naval Troopers and other types of troopers other than the stormtroopers.
     
  17. A8T

    A8T Jedi Master star 2

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    From the Force Awakens trailer there appear to be an updated version of the Death Star Gunner or Naval Troops, not sure which one it is intended to be.
    Well in old EU the Empire had lots of different types of Storm troopers so perhaps thats what we will end up seeing in the future.
     
  18. Tzizvvt78

    Tzizvvt78 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    New from SW #5:
    the Ganath Cloud
    moons of Ovise
    the Trindello system
    the Monsua Nebula in the Moddell sector
    the Blackfel system
     
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  19. Kablob

    Kablob Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Also, "Wormie".
     
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  20. Ewok Poet

    Ewok Poet Force Ghost star 6

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    This last bit just made my day. Monsua Nebula is crazy cool, so is the whole of Moddell.

    Somebody please recanonize the Din Pulsar and the Endor Gate. Sure other people who like writing stuff off their own need them as much as I do. I even made up an ancient astronomer who discovered them.
     
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  21. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Although having the things be in Canon only makes the name Canon it could be a completely different object.
     
  22. Ewok Poet

    Ewok Poet Force Ghost star 6

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    Do you have to follow me around the entire board, quote me and say obvious things? I'm getting a tiny bit uncomfortable now.
     
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  23. Taalcon

    Taalcon Chosen One star 4

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    Except in these instances, they clearly are what they originally represented. Generally, if they name-drop something established, they're keeping the essential nature of it. It's been pointed out that the basic structure of the Galaxy is being kept the same.
     
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  24. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Ok then.......

    Sorry?

    I will just ignore you in the future.
     
  25. mattman8907

    mattman8907 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    the seven forms of lightsaber combat:
    • Shii-Cho (Form I),
    • Makashi (Form II)
    • Soresu (Form III)
    • Ataru (Form IV)
    • Shien / Djem So (Form V)
    • Nimban (Form VI)
    • Juyo / Vaapad (Form VII)