Lit Recanonized EU: A List

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Ordo Skirata, May 1, 2014.

  1. kopolee14 Jedi Padawan

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    Not sure if this is already known, but the excerpt for A New Dawn shows that the concept of Core, Colonies, Inner Rim, etc still exists.
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  2. darkchrono Force Ghost

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    Good to know that they are officially saying something about the timeline. I always felt like more time was intended to pass between Ep. V and VI though as it seemed like there was an effort put forth to make Luke look older.
  3. Vthuil Force Ghost

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    Well, he's obviously meant to have "grown up" a lot, but that doesn't have to be literal. And it'd be sort of odd if finding Han in Jabba's palace took more than a year.
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  4. darkchrono Force Ghost

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    That's true.
  5. darklordoftech Force Ghost

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    Does this mean that BBY/ABY is out and BBN/ABN is in?
  6. Revanfan1 Chosen One

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    Considering TPM is "zero hour" in the canon timeline, it makes sense.
  7. darkchrono Force Ghost

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    I'm not sure if it is implying that at all. I think Chee was just trying to indicate how much time was meant to pass in this new disney era.
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  8. Gorefiend Chosen One

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    Only that not all of them speak Basic and some are known as Slavers.



    I still hope the Empire finally get a calendar based on the founding of the Empire, because it not having one always struck me as really odd.
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  9. Riv_Shiel Jedi Master

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    The ways I see to interpret this statement:
    1. The movies are not non-canon by overlapping with the novelizations. Yes, this goes without saying. The way this could have been the statement is if whoever made the statement that the novelizations are canon (the original statement, not the Heddle clarification) didn't know enough to give an intelligent answer and assumed that the novelizations must be canon because they tell the same story as the movies.
    2. The novelizations are canon, but only the scenes that are the same as the movies. In other words, the novelizations add character thoughts to canon, but no additional scenes or "EU" elements.
    3. The novelizations are canon except in so far as they don't outright contradict with the films. In this case, "aligns with" means "doesn't contradict". So certain EU elements are brought into canon, but Luke doesn't fly Blue 5 at the Battle of Yavin (for example).
    In all the time that has passed we still haven't gotten further clarification as to what they meant.
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  10. darklordoftech Force Ghost

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    I look forward to the OT Journeys apps so that we can learn about those Star Destroyers.
  11. Gorefiend Chosen One

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    Stuff from Rise of the Rebels

    The Outer Rim is the largest part of the galaxy; large parts of it are rarely explored/unmapped (so there might actually no longer we Wild Space/ Unknown Regions)

    TIEs are insanely fast and flown by elite pilots, but are easily destroyed by a shoot or two

    Droidspeak is still binar

    Droids (or at least Chopper) are programed to preserve the lives of his owner´s, going as far as to kill another sentient to do so (R2 would be proud)

    Art and culture is heavily censored by the Empire.

    Mandalorian armour is insanely rare, with Boba being about the only prominent person to wear a set and their warrior culture is hinted at being lost and forgotten by the galaxy at large.

    Stormtroopers go by numbers and pretty much lose their personality in training, for which the Empire tends to pick people that are easily brainwashed and have something of a mean streak to begin with.

    The Empire is apparently still fond of genocide.

    Huttese is a common trader language.

    Credits of the Empire come in chips and coins.

    Aliens are often enslaved by the Empire, Kashyyyk and Lasat are given as examples.

    Tougher races are still more resistant to stun bolts and are able to shake of the effect.

    Black Markets are common and often deal in military gear.

    TIE fighter pilots outfits work as full flight suits and have the ability to filter air.

    TIE pilots are navy officers.

    Hawk-Bats are still around.
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  12. Jedi Knight Fett Jedi Master

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    guys remeber that they might have the same name but everthing else may be changed or might look the same.
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  13. Cynical_Ben Force Ghost

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    Or very little could have changed and everyone's making a big deal over nothing. Just as likely.
  14. darklordoftech Force Ghost

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  15. Force Smuggler Chosen One

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    Still prefer BBY/ABY over TPM being used.
  16. Ordo Skirata Jedi Grand Master

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    Thank you, Gorefield. Your lists have been incredibly helpful.

    I've added three more categories: Creatures, Names (Which are just the names from the Star Wars Journeys: The Phantom Menace app), and a miscellaneous, which is a very broad category of things that don't fit anywhere else. Due to their nature, the "miscellaneous" part does not have where the items are originally from, as the are more general EU ideas. Not planets, people, etc. like the rest of the list.

    Also, due to the ambiguity of EU in movie novelizations, I’ve removed them from the main list. So, consider them in the “maybe” pile.

    As always, if there are any mistakes, please let me know.



    Planets:
    • Aargonar: Used in The Clone Wars: Season 3: Ep. 10, originally from Republic: 59
    • Agamar: Used in TCW: Season 5: Ep. 5, originally from The Farlander Papers
    • Ando Prime: Used in Attack of the Clones, originally from Episode 1: Racer
    • Bestine IV: Used in TCW: Season 1: Ep. 10, originally from Star Wars: X-wing
    • Carida: Used in TCW: Season 5: Ep. 13, originally from Dark Apprentice
    • Cato Neimoidia: Used in Revenge of the Sith, originally from Labyrinth of Evil
    • Centax 3: Used in One Thousand Levels Down, originally from Coruscant and the Core Worlds
    • Concord Dawn: Used in TCW: Season 4: Ep. 17, originally from The Last One Standing: The Tale of Boba Fett
    • Coruscant: First used in the Phantom Menace, originally from Star Wars: 63
    • Dathomir: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 12, originally from The Courtship of Princess Leia
    • Devaron: Used in TCW: Season 1: Ep. 5, originally from Empire Blues: The Devaronian's Tale
    • Dorin: Used in TCW: Season 2: Ep. 5, originally from Outcast
    • Falleen: Used in TCW: Season 1: Ep. 6, originally from Shadows of the Empire
    • Ilum: Used in TCW: Season 5: Ep. 6, originally from Jedi Quest: Path to Truth
    • Iridonia: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 14, originally from Phantom Menaces
    • Kadavo: Used in TCW: Season 4: Ep. 12, originally from The Clone Wars: Slaves of the Republic
    • Kiros: Used in TCW: Season 4: Ep. 11, originally from The Clone Wars: Slaves of the Republic
    • Korriban/Moraband: Used in TCW: Season 6: Ep. 13, originally from Tales of the Jedi: Dark Lords of the Sith
    • Lotho Minor: Used in TCW: Season 4: Ep. 21, originally from The Wrath of Darth Maul
    • Mandalore: Used in TCW: Season 2: Ep. 12, originally from Star Wars 68
    • Maridun: Used in TCW: Season 1: Ep. 13, originally from Empire: 16
    • Mimban: Used in TCW: Season 1: Ep. 5, originally from Splinter of the Mind’s Eye
    • Nal Hutta: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 9, originally from Dark Empire
    • Onderon: Used in TCW: Season 5: Ep. 2, originally from Tales of the Jedi
    • Qiilura: Used in TCW: Season 4: Ep. 5, originally from Republic Commando: Hard Contact
    • Rattatak: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 12, originally from Clone Wars Chap 6
    • Rodia: Used in TCW: Season 1: Ep. 8, originally from Shadows of the Empire
    • Ryloth: Used in TCW: Season 1: Ep. 13, originally from unknown
    • Saleucami: Used in Revenge of the Sith, originally from Republic: 72
    • Serenno: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 12, originally from Darth Bane: Rule of Two
    • Teth: Used in TCW: Season 1: Ep. 11, originally from The Hutt Gambit
    • Tibrin: Used in TCW: Season 1: Ep. 5, originally from Star Wars: Rebellion
    • Trandosha: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 21, originally from The Prize Pelt: The Tale of Bossk
    • Tund: Used in The Phantom Menace, originally from Lando Calrissian and the Starcave of ThonBoka
    • Vanqor: Used in TCW: Season 1: Ep. 11, originally from Jedi Quest: Moment of Truth
    • Zanbar: Used in TCW: Season 5: Ep. 14, originally from Darth Maul: Shadow Conspiracy
    • Zygerria: Used in TCW: Season 4: Ep. 11, originally from The Clone Wars: Slaves of the Republic
    Characters:

    • Aarrpo, Gorga Desilijic: Used in TCW: Season 3: ep. 8, originally from Boba Fett: Bounty on Bar-Kooda.
    • Boss: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 14, originally from Republic Commando: Hard Contact
    • Darth Bane: Used in TCW: Season 6: Ep. 13, originally from The Phantom Menace novelization.
    • Fixer: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 14, originally from Star Wars: Republic Commando
    • Miraj Scintel: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 12, originally from The Clone Wars: Slaves of the Republic
    • Narec, Ky: Used in TCW: Season 3: ep.12, originally from Jedi: Mace Windu.
    • Roshit: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 11, originally from The Clone Wars: Slaves of the Republic
    • Scorch: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 14, originally from Star Wars: Republic Commando
    • Secura, Aayla: Used in Attack of the Clones, originally from Republic 19
    • Sev: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 14, originally from Star Wars: Republic Commando
    • Ventress, Asajj: Used in Star Wars: The Clone Wars (film), originally from Jedi: Mace Windu
    • Vos, Quinlan: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 9, originally from Republic 17
    Species:

    • Falleen: Used in TCW: Season 5: Ep. 14, originally from Shadows of the Empire
    • Herglics: Used in One Thousand Levels Down, originally from Dark Force Rising
    • Lorridan: Used in Revenge of the Sith, originally from Han Solo’s Revenge
    • Theelin: Used in Return of the Jedi, originally from Dark Empire
    • Umbaran: Used in TCW: Season 2: Ep. 15, originally from Cloak of Deception
    Organizations:

    • Black Sun: Used in TCW: Season 5: Ep. 14, originally from Shadow of the Empire
    • Death Watch: Used in TCW: Season 2: Ep. 12, originally from Jango Fett: Open Seasons
    • Hutt Grand Council: Used in TCW: Season 3, Ep. 08, originally from The Hutt Gambit.
    • Night Sisters: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 12, originally from The Courtship of Princess Leia
    • Imperial Garrison on Naboo: Used in Blade Squadron, originally from Unknown
    Vehicles:
    • Action VI transport: Used in Attack of the Clones, originally from Heir to the Empire
    • B-14 airspeeders: Used in One Thousand Levels Down, originally from Jedi Quest: The False Peace
    • Outrider: Used in A New Hope, originally from Shadows of the Empire
    • Devastator (As Vader’s command ship)
    Droids:
    • ASP-series droid: Used in A New Hope, originally from Shadows of the Empire
    Events:
    • Battle of Sarrish: Used in TCW: Season 5: Ep. 12, originally from Routine Valor
    Drinks:
    • Coffee: Used in Blade Squadron, originally from Children of the Jedi
    Creatures:

    • Hawk-bat: Used in Rise of the Rebels, originally from Jedi Search
    • Terentateks: Used in TCW: Season 6: Ep. 12, originally from Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
    Names:

    • Saak'ak: From Star Wars Journeys: The Phantom Menace
    • Lucrehulk-class freighter: From Star Wars Journeys: The Phantom Menace
    • Radiant VII: From Star Wars Journeys: The Phantom Menace
    • Consular-class Space Cruiser: From Star Wars Journeys: The Phantom Menace
    Miscellaneous:

    • Binary droidspeak: Used in Rise of the Rebels
    • Credits in the form of chips and coins: Used in Rise of the Rebels
    • Devastator present at Battle of Hoth, formally Vader’s command ship: Used in Blade Squadron: Part 1
    • Endor Fleet largest assembled: Used in Blade Squadron: Part 1
    • Fraternizing is frowned upon in the Imperial forces: Used in Blade Squadron: Part 1
    • Huttese as a common trading language: Used in Rise of the Rebels
    • Imperial censorship of art and culture: Used in Rise of the Rebels
    • Imperial enslavement of Wookiees and Lasat: Used in Rise of the Rebels
    • Imperial subjugation of Mon Calamari: Used in One Thousand Levels Down
    • Imperial traitors serving in the Alliance Fleet: Used in Blade Squadron: Part 1
    • Local Security Forces independent of the Imperial Navy: Used in Blade Squadron: Part 1
    • Mandolorian Armor is rare: Used in Rise of the Rebels
    • Mistreatment of Herglics by the Empire: Used in One Thousand Levels Down
    • Outer Rim as largest area of galaxy: Used in Rise of the Rebels
    • Smugglers join the Rebel cause: Used in Blade Squadron: Part 1
    • Stormtrooper training: Used in Rise of the Rebels
    • TIE pilots are naval officers: Used in Rise of the Rebels
    • TIE pilot suits are full flight suits and can filter air: Used in Rise of the Rebels
    Status unknown(EU from movie novelizations):

    Planets:
    • Ando: Used in The Revenge of the Sith novelization, originally from Dark Force Rising
    • Ansion: Used in Attack of the Clones novelization, originally from Approaching Storm
    • Bogden: Used in Attack of the Clones novelization, originally from Droids: episode 8
    • Commenor: Used in A New Hope novelization
    • Fornax: Used in A New Hope novelization
    • Galidraan: Used in The Clone Wars novelization, originally from Jango Fett: Open Season
    • Glee Anselm: Used in Attack of the Clones novelization, originally from unknown
    • Haruun Kal: Used in The Revenge of the Sith novelization, originally from Shatterpoint
    • Irmenu: Used in The Clone Wars novelization, originally from Republic Commando: True Colors
    • Jabiim: Used in The Revenge of the Sith novelization, originally from Republic 55
    • Moonus Mandel: Used in The Phantom Menace novelization, originally from Deep Spoilers, Gamer 4
    • Munnilinst: Used in The Revenge of the Sith novelization, originally from Specter of the Past
    • Nar Shadda: Used in The Revenge of the Sith novelization, originally from Star Wars: 16
    • Norulac: Used in Return of the Jedi novelization
    • Ord Cestus: Used in The Revenge of the Sith novelization, originally from The Cestus Deception
    • Ord Mantell: Used in The Revenge of the Sith novelization, originally from The Bounty Hunter of Ord Mantell
    • Pesmenben IV: Used in Return of the Jedi novelization
    • Shadda-Bi-Boran: Used in Attack of the Clones novelization
    • Sy Myrth: Used in Attack of the Clones novelization, originally from HoloNet News Vol. 531 45
    • Taanab: Used in Return of the Jedi novelization
    • Tovarskl: Used in The Revenge of the Sith novelization
    • Triton: Used in The Empire Strikes Back novelization
    • Varl: Used in The Clone Wars novelization, originally from Darksaber
    Characters:
    • Bel Iblis, Garm: Used in The Revenge of the Sith novelization, originally from Dark Force Rising
    • Choi, Tsui: Used in Revenge of the Sith, originally from Jedi Council: Acts of War.
    • Gaib: Used in The Clone Wars novelization, originally from Republic Commando: True Colors
    • Skirata, Kom'rk: Used in The Clone Wars novelization, originally from Republic Commando: Triple Zero
    • Tiure, Zorba: Used in The Clone Wars novelization, originally from Zorba the Hutt’s Revenge
    Species:
    • Blood Carver: Used in The Clone Wars novelization, originally from Rogue Planet
    • Goaasm: Used in Attack of the Clones novelization, originally from The Approaching Storm
    • Kaleesh: Used in Revenge of the Sith novelization, originally from Star Wars: Clone Wars Chapter 20
    Organizations:
    • Jal Shey: Used in The Clone Wars novelization, originally from Knights of the Old Republic: II
    • Kilian Rangers: Used in The Clone Wars novelization, originally from unknown
    • True Mandalorians: Used in The Clone Wars novelization, originally from Jango Fett: Open Seasons
    Vehicles:
    • Carrack-class Light Cruiser: Used in Revenge of the Sith novelization, originally from Heir to the Empire
    Events:
    • Battle of Galidraan: Used in The Clone Wars novelization, originally from Jango Fett: Open Seasons
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  17. PCCViking Jedi Master

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    Wasn't Ord Mantell mentioned in Empire Strikes Back? Han mentioned something about encountering a bounty hunter there, so Ord Mantell would be canon, unless I'm mixing up planets.
  18. RedVad Jedi Knight

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    Doesn't seem like a great idea to get attached to the new EU.

    I think the movies probably won't take any of it into account like what happened with the prequels.
  19. Tzizvvt78 Force Ghost

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    From Ezra's Gamble:

    species:
    *Houk
    *Feeorin

    locations:
    *Monad (a type of self-contained building)
    *Nyriaan
    *Ahakista system, Ahakista the planet and the Daystar Casino

    vehicles:
    *Hound’s Tooth, seen in TCW, is described as a modified Corellian Engineering Corporation YV-666
    *drone barge

    organizations:
    *Bounty Hunters Guild
    *Imperial Exploration
    *Imperial Merchant Service
    *Imperial Enforcement DataCore

    misc:
    *Imperial Peace Keeping Certificate (includes Bossk's actual number)
    *the Bounty Hunter Code

    There is no new EU, it's all canon now. The movies, the new tv shows, the new books and comics and games. Anything from the old EU that gets referenced will be as canon as the movies, for the first time ever. No more uncle George telling us "that didn't happen in my world".

    Ord Mantell is from ESB, not an EU planet. :)
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  20. Ordo Skirata Jedi Grand Master

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    You are correct. This is what happens when I just search for "first appearance" on Wookieepedia.

    There really is no "new EU." The Expanded Universe (1978 - 2014) is no longer considered canon. And now, books, comics, etc. are at the same level of canonicity as the movies.

    Edit: What Tzizvvt78 said.
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  21. First Of My Name Jedi Knight

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    The character Lorian Nod was mentioned in the RotS novelization, IIRC. (In the 'This is Count Dooku' section). So he'd be status unknown.
  22. Mange Force Ghost

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    Good! The Unknown Regions, and the NJO maps up to the Atlas maps, didn't make any sense.
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  23. Tzizvvt78 Force Ghost

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    Wild Space exists, we hear it named in the TCW movie. Teth is part of it. Sounds like only the UR is out.

    So far, we have:

    Core Worlds (named in AND, referred to as "the Core" in AOTC)
    Colonies (or "Colony worlds", named in AND)
    Inner Rim (named in TCW and AND)
    Expansion Region (named in TCW)
    Mid Rim (named in TCW)
    Outer Rim Territories (named in the movies and in TCW)
    Wild Space (named in the TCW movie)
    Hutt Space (named in TCW)

    I notice both coffee and caf are again canon. Caf is mentioned in AND.

    Ryloth was from The Star Wars Sourcebook.
    Serenno was from the old Holonet News site.
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  24. darklordoftech Force Ghost

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    Plus there were way too many things "hidden" in the "unknown regions".
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  25. Kablob Force Ghost

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    It's a bit like, why is this place unknown anymore? You've had thousands of years to take a look around out there.