Lit Recanonized EU: A List

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Ordo Skirata, May 1, 2014.

  1. Tzizvvt78 Force Ghost

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    This became a problem with the start of the NJO series, where you couldn't pass though the border of the galaxy unless you were in one particular location. After that, they piled on more reasons why a large section of the galaxy was almost unknown. Now that the NJO is non-canon, this isn't a problem any more.

    They just make the Outer Rim/Wild Space filled with unknown systems. I think Rise of the Rebels even says you can travel the space lanes in the Outer Rim for years without meeting anyone. They're making the OR out to be the big unknown in canon, apparently. Vast emptiness in-between known systems. That way you could have characters traverse the galactic disk and still run into new things.
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  2. Mange Force Ghost

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    A galaxy is so much more than the disc. The movies makes it more or less clear that the galaxy is explored (otherwise there would for example be countless places for Grievous to hide, not to mention the Rebellion). I think it makes sense that the Outer Rim encompasses the edges of the galactic disc while the galactic halo (which has a much lower concentration of stars and those there are older and lacks in metals) and satellite galaxies (which were seen on maps in AOTC) are largely unexplored (or ignored).
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  3. JoinTheSchwarz Comms Admin & Community Manager

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    I'd be okay with the URs and WS being subregions of the Outer Rim. I kind of doubt they are going to throw the Atlas maps off the window, considering TCW seemed more than happy to use them.
  4. Tzizvvt78 Force Ghost

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    I see Journeys is on here as a source, in that case there's several other EU planets mentioned in that app:
    Colla IV
    Haruun Kal
    Neimoidia
    Stewjon
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  5. Ordo Skirata Jedi Grand Master

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    Thanks, though it saddens me that Stewjon is now here for good.

    As for sources, I've just been going off The2ndQuest's continuity timeline.
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  6. TCWNoLettersHome Jedi Grand Master

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    There is _possibly_ still room for it. The AotC analysis droids commented that their information spanned 80 percent of the galaxy. That leaves 1/5th un-catalogged.
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  7. themetresgained Jedi Grand Master

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    I can't believe Stewjon is a real thing *sigh*
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  8. Kablob Chosen One

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    They didn't say Obi-Wan was from it...I think...
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  9. darklordoftech Chosen One

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    What's wrong with Stewjon?
  10. themetresgained Jedi Grand Master

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    It comes from a joke by Lucas. Facepalm.
  11. Tzizvvt78 Force Ghost

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    Which doesn't translate to 20 % being a galactic slice. The same book said there were unknown systems throughout the OR.
  12. TCWNoLettersHome Jedi Grand Master

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    To my mind, the possibilities would be:

    1. That the Archive had information on artifacts and products from every world in the Republic, which by itself constitutes 80% of the galaxy.
    2. That the Archive had information on artifacts and products from every world in the Republic plus worlds outside it, with the total constituting 80% of the galaxy.
    3. That the Archive did not have complete information even from every world in the Republic.

    Your argument is for #3, but I would think the arrogance of Jocasta Nu and PK-4 would suggest that #3 is not correct, leaving our options as #1 or #2. I wouldn't think #1 really fits the arrogance narrative either, since the whole "{it} doesn't exist" and 'if I can't tell you, no one can' attitude of Nu and PK-4 would make little sense if they didn't have any info from outside the Republic.

    That would be like something not having an American UPC code so everyone acts like it's all unidentifiable and perhaps something you made yourself just to mess with them, but really it's just from England.
  13. TCWNoLettersHome Jedi Grand Master

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    However, you are correct in that it does not necessarily represent a contiguous slice.
  14. Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One

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    I know I am just saying every detail about there backstory or what have you will probably not be the same I really wish they are though.
  15. Gamiel Force Ghost

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    The kilian rangers are from Wizard of the Coast's Rebellion Era Sourcebook, pages 48-51 to be exact.
    They have just been described in the Beyond the big two: lesser Force traditions in the GFFA thread.
  16. Tzizvvt78 Force Ghost

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    Are the TCW novels canon, though? I don't think they were part of the first announcement.
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  17. Iron_lord Chosen One

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    Novelizations of movies count (where they align) and what's being referred to is the novelization of the TCW movie.
  18. Grievousdude Jedi Grand Master

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    What about the extra scenes the novels add, are they still canon?
  19. Iron_lord Chosen One

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    Nobody knows for sure yet - some say yes, and that it would be silly to specify "novelizations are canon" if nothing actually seen on screen counts - some say no - "align means exactly matches what's on screen"
  20. cthugha Force Ghost

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    Just finished "Ezra's Gamble". Apart from some eye-rollingly stupid stuff ("commlink", "all the shots went wild", or Bossk cryptoquoting Princess Leia) and TONS of name-dropped species, the juiciest continuity bit IMO are the implications about Bossk's relationship with his father. We're not given a name, but he taught Bossk how to "boost" (seems to be standing for "steal" here) a speeder bike, but Bossk gets quite aggressive when Ezra keeps asking for more information about his father. All of which fits rather likely with EU Cradossk from what I remember...
  21. Tzizvvt78 Force Ghost

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    Rebels: Head to Head recanonizes:

    Ando
    Ithor
    Nubia

    Kuat Vehicles
    SoroSuub Corporation
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  22. Tzizvvt78 Force Ghost

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    Wookieepedia lists Manaan as canon, because the revamped official site has a Disney logo on it. :p
    Which also makes Korriban a legit alternate name for Moraband. [face_peace]
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  23. Iron_lord Chosen One

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    What's silly about it - the choice of spelling?

    ANH: C-3PO "Use the com-link? Oh my! I forgot!"
  24. Ordo Skirata Jedi Grand Master

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    Thanks for all the input, Tzizvvt78 (man, you need a abbreviation or something for that). I've added your findings into the catalogue.

    Is the database considered to be canon? I looked and didn't see any conformation of it.

    Anyway, I've added things from Star Wars: Commander (zakkegs are canon again!) and the plethora of Rebels material. But, so far, I haven't added any A New Dawn items (Hardbacks cost way to much). Also, I'll start putting the list in spoiler tags due to its length.

    As always, if there are any mistakes, please let me know.
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    Buildings:
    • Daystar Casino: Used in Ezra’s Gamble, originally from Star Wars: Rebellion 6
    • Monad: Used in Ezra’s Gamble, originally from Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter
    Characters:
    • Aarrpo, Gorga Desilijic: Used in TCW: Season 3: ep. 8, originally from Boba Fett: Bounty on Bar-Kooda.
    • Boss: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 14, originally from Republic Commando: Hard Contact
    • Captain Kosh: Used in Star Wars: Commander, originally from Heroes in Hiding
    • Choi, Tsui: Used in Revenge of the Sith, originally from Jedi Council: Acts of War.
    • Darth Bane: Used in TCW: Season 6: Ep. 13, originally from The Phantom Menace novelization.
    • Fixer: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 14, originally from Star Wars: Republic Commando
    • Miraj Scintel: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 12, originally from The Clone Wars: Slaves of the Republic
    • Narec, Ky: Used in TCW: Season 3: ep.12, originally from Jedi: Mace Windu.
    • Roshit: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 11, originally from The Clone Wars: Slaves of the Republic
    • Scorch: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 14, originally from Star Wars: Republic Commando
    • Secura, Aayla: Used in Attack of the Clones, originally from Republic 19
    • Sev: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 14, originally from Star Wars: Republic Commando
    • Ventress, Asajj: Used in Star Wars: The Clone Wars (film), originally from Jedi: Mace Windu (Significant backstory changes)
    • Vos, Quinlan: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 9, originally from Republic 17
    Creatures:
    • Hawk-bat: Used in Rise of the Rebels, originally from Jedi Search
    • Terentateks: Used in TCW: Season 6: Ep. 12, originally from Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (appearance canonized in Star Wars: Commander)
    • Zakkeg: Used in Star Wars: Commander, originally from Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
    Drinks:
    • Coffee: Used in Blade Squadron, originally from Children of the Jedi
    Droids:
    • ASP-series droid: Used in A New Hope, originally from Shadows of the Empire
    • All Terrain Missile Platform (AT-MP): Used in Star Wars: Commander, originally from The Force Unleashed II
    • Phase II dark troopers: Used in Star Wars: Commander, originally from Dark Forces
    Events:
    • Battle of Sarrish: Used in TCW: Season 5: Ep. 12, originally from Routine Valor
    Names:
    • Saak'ak: From Star Wars Journeys: The Phantom Menace
    • Lucrehulk-class freighter: From Star Wars Journeys: The Phantom Menace
    • Radiant VII: From Star Wars Journeys: The Phantom Menace
    • Consular-class Space Cruiser: From Star Wars Journeys: The Phantom Menace
    Miscellaneous (point of origin known):
    • Imperial Peace-Keeping Certificate: Used in Ezra’s Gamble, originally from No Disintegrations
    • Bounty Hunter Code: Used in Ezra’s Gamble, originally from The Bounty Hunter Code: From the Files of Boba Fett
    Miscellaneous (point of origin unknown):
    • Aurebesh Credit symbol: Used in Star Wars: Commander
    • Binary droidspeak: Used in Rise of the Rebels
    • Credits in the form of chips and coins: Used in Rise of the Rebels
    • Devastator present at Battle of Hoth, formally Vader’s command ship: Used in Blade Squadron: Part 1
    • Endor Fleet largest assembled: Used in Blade Squadron: Part 1
    • Fraternizing is frowned upon in the Imperial forces: Used in Blade Squadron: Part 1
    • Huttese as a common trading language: Used in Rise of the Rebels
    • Imperial censorship of art and culture: Used in Rise of the Rebels
    • Imperial enslavement of Wookiees and Lasat: Used in Rise of the Rebels
    • Imperial Garrison on Naboo: Used in Blade Squadron
    • Imperial subjugation of Mon Calamari: Used in One Thousand Levels Down
    • Imperial traitors serving in the Alliance Fleet: Used in Blade Squadron: Part 1
    • Local Security Forces independent of the Imperial Navy: Used in Blade Squadron: Part 1
    • Mandolorian Armor is rare: Used in Rise of the Rebels
    • Mistreatment of Herglics by the Empire: Used in One Thousand Levels Down
    • Outer Rim as largest area of galaxy: Used in Rise of the Rebels
    • Plex Rocket Launcher: Used in Star Wars: Commander
    • Rebel use of CIS hardware: Used in Star Wars: Commander
    • Smugglers join the Rebel cause: Used in Blade Squadron: Part 1
    • Stormtrooper training: Used in Rise of the Rebels
    • TIE pilots are naval officers: Used in Rise of the Rebels
    • TIE pilot suits are full flight suits and can filter air: Used in Rise of the Rebels
    Organizations and Companies:
    • Black Sun: Used in TCW: Season 5: Ep. 14, originally from Shadow of the Empire
    • Bounty Hunters’ Guild: Used in Ezra’s Gamble, originally from The Mandalorian Armor
    • Death Watch: Used in TCW: Season 2: Ep. 12, originally from Jango Fett: Open Seasons
    • Hutt Grand Council: Used in TCW: Season 3, Ep. 08, originally from The Hutt Gambit.
    • Imperial Enforcement DataCore: Used in Ezra’s Gamble, originally from Adventure Journal 4
    • Imperial Exploration: Used in Ezra’s Gamble, originally from Adventure Journal 11
    • Imperial Merchant Service: Used in Ezra’s Gamble, originally unknown
    • Kuat Vehicles: Used in Rebels: Head to Head, originally from Galaxy Guide 9: Fragments from the Rim
    • Night Sisters: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 12, originally from The Courtship of Princess Leia
    • SoroSuub Corporation: Used in Rebels: Head to Head, originally from Champions of the Force
    Planets:
    • Aargonar: Used in The Clone Wars: Season 3: Ep. 10, originally from Republic: 59
    • Agamar: Used in TCW: Season 5: Ep. 5, originally from The Farlander Papers
    • Ahakista: Used in Ezra’s Gamble, originally from Star Wars: Rebellion: The Ahakista Gambit
    • Ando: Used in Rebels: Head to Head, originally from Dark Force Rising
    • Ando Prime: Used in Attack of the Clones, originally from Episode 1: Racer
    • Bestine IV: Used in TCW: Season 1: Ep. 10, originally from Star Wars: X-wing
    • Carida: Used in TCW: Season 5: Ep. 13, originally from Dark Apprentice
    • Cato Neimoidia: Used in Revenge of the Sith, originally from Labyrinth of Evil
    • Centax 3: Used in One Thousand Levels Down, originally from Coruscant and the Core Worlds
    • Colla IV: Used in Star Wars Journeys: The Phantom Menace, originally from Cloak of Deception
    • Concord Dawn: Used in TCW: Season 4: Ep. 17, originally from The Last One Standing: The Tale of Boba Fett
    • Coruscant: First used in the Phantom Menace, originally from Star Wars: 63
    • Dathomir: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 12, originally from The Courtship of Princess Leia
    • Devaron: Used in TCW: Season 1: Ep. 5, originally from Empire Blues: The Devaronian's Tale
    • Dorin: Used in TCW: Season 2: Ep. 5, originally from Outcast
    • Falleen: Used in TCW: Season 1: Ep. 6, originally from Shadows of the Empire
    • Haruun Kal: Used in Star Wars Journeys: The Phantom Menace, originally from Shatterpoint
    • Ilum: Used in TCW: Season 5: Ep. 6, originally from Jedi Quest: Path to Truth
    • Iridonia: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 14, originally from Phantom Menaces
    • Ithor: Used in Rebels: Head to Head, originally from Jedi Search
    • Kadavo: Used in TCW: Season 4: Ep. 12, originally from The Clone Wars: Slaves of the Republic
    • Kiros: Used in TCW: Season 4: Ep. 11, originally from The Clone Wars: Slaves of the Republic
    • Korriban/Moraband: Used in TCW: Season 6: Ep. 13, originally from Tales of the Jedi: Dark Lords of the Sith
    • Lotho Minor: Used in TCW: Season 4: Ep. 21, originally from The Wrath of Darth Maul
    • Mandalore: Used in TCW: Season 2: Ep. 12, originally from Star Wars 68
    • Maridun: Used in TCW: Season 1: Ep. 13, originally from Empire: 16
    • Mimban: Used in TCW: Season 1: Ep. 5, originally from Splinter of the Mind’s Eye
    • Nal Hutta: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 9, originally from Dark Empire
    • Neimoidia: Used in Star Wars Journeys: The Phantom Menace, originally from Darth Maul: Saboteur
    • Nubia: Used in Star Wars Journeys: The Phantom Menace, originally from unknown (possibly Halves)
    • Nyriaan: Used in Ezra’s Gamble, originally from Galaxy of Intrigue
    • Onderon: Used in TCW: Season 5: Ep. 2, originally from Tales of the Jedi
    • Qiilura: Used in TCW: Season 4: Ep. 5, originally from Republic Commando: Hard Contact
    • Rattatak: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 12, originally from Clone Wars Chap 6
    • Rodia: Used in TCW: Season 1: Ep. 8, originally from Shadows of the Empire
    • Ryloth: Used in TCW: Season 1: Ep. 13, originally from unknown
    • Saleucami: Used in Revenge of the Sith, originally from Republic: 72
    • Serenno: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 12, originally from Darth Bane: Rule of Two
    • Teth: Used in TCW: Season 1: Ep. 11, originally from The Hutt Gambit
    • Tibrin: Used in TCW: Season 1: Ep. 5, originally from Star Wars: Rebellion
    • Trandosha: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 21, originally from The Prize Pelt: The Tale of Bossk
    • Tund: Used in The Phantom Menace, originally from Lando Calrissian and the Starcave of ThonBoka
    • Vanqor: Used in TCW: Season 1: Ep. 11, originally from Jedi Quest: Moment of Truth
    • Zanbar: Used in TCW: Season 5: Ep. 14, originally from Darth Maul: Shadow Conspiracy
    • Zygerria: Used in TCW: Season 4: Ep. 11, originally from The Clone Wars: Slaves of the Republic
    Species:
    • Falleen: Used in TCW: Season 5: Ep. 14, originally from Shadows of the Empire
    • Feeorin: Used in Ezra’s Gamble, originally from Star Wars: Starfighter
    • Herglics: Used in One Thousand Levels Down, originally from Dark Force Rising
    • Houk: Used in Ezra’s Gamble, originally from Han Solo and the Lost Legacy
    • Lorridan: Used in Revenge of the Sith, originally from Han Solo’s Revenge
    • Theelin: Used in Return of the Jedi, originally from Dark Empire
    • Selkath: Used in TCW: Season 3: Ep. 11, originally from HoloNet News Vol. 531 54 (identified as Selkath in Knights of the Old Republic)
    • Umbaran: Used in TCW: Season 2: Ep. 15, originally from Cloak of Deception
    Soldiers:
    • Heavy Stormtroopers: Used in Star Wars: Commander, originally from Galactic Battlegrounds
    • Rebel Pathfinders: Used in Star Wars: Commander, originally from The DarkStryder Campaign
    Systems:
    • Ahakista system: Used in Ezra’s Gamble, originally from The Essential Atlas
    Vehicles:
    • 2-M Saber-class repulsor tank: Used in Star Wars: Commander, originally from Empire at War
    • Action VI transport: Used in Attack of the Clones, originally from Heir to the Empire
    • B-14 airspeeders: Used in One Thousand Levels Down, originally from Jedi Quest: The False Peace
    • Devastator (As Vader’s command ship)
    • Drone Barge: Used in Ezra’s Gamble, originally from Han Solo at Stars’ End
    • Hound’s Tooth: Used in TCW: Season 4: Ep. 12, originally from The Prize Pelt: The Tale of Bossk (identified as Corellian Engineering Corporation YV-666 in Ezra’s Gamble)
    • MTV-7 Multi-Terrain Vehicle: Used in Star Wars: Commander, originally from unknown
    • Outrider: Used in A New Hope, originally from Shadows of the Empire
    • T2-B repulsor tank: Used in Star Wars: Commander, originally from Empire at War
    • Z-95 Headhunter: Used in Star Wars: Commander, originally from Han Solo at Stars’ End
    Status unknown (EU from movie novelizations):

    Planets:
    • Ansion: Used in Attack of the Clones novelization, originally from Approaching Storm
    • Bogden: Used in Attack of the Clones novelization, originally from Droids: episode 8
    • Commenor: Used in A New Hope novelization
    • Fornax: Used in A New Hope novelization
    • Galidraan: Used in The Clone Wars novelization, originally from Jango Fett: Open Season
    • Glee Anselm: Used in Attack of the Clones novelization, originally from unknown
    • Irmenu: Used in The Clone Wars novelization, originally from Republic Commando: True Colors
    • Jabiim: Used in The Revenge of the Sith novelization, originally from Republic 55
    • Moonus Mandel: Used in The Phantom Menace novelization, originally from Deep Spoilers, Gamer 4
    • Munnilinst: Used in The Revenge of the Sith novelization, originally from Specter of the Past
    • Nar Shadda: Used in The Revenge of the Sith novelization, originally from Star Wars: 16
    • Norulac: Used in Return of the Jedi novelization
    • Ord Cestus: Used in The Revenge of the Sith novelization, originally from The Cestus Deception
    • Pesmenben IV: Used in Return of the Jedi novelization
    • Shadda-Bi-Boran: Used in Attack of the Clones novelization
    • Sy Myrth: Used in Attack of the Clones novelization, originally from HoloNet News Vol. 531 45
    • Taanab: Used in Return of the Jedi novelization
    • Tovarskl: Used in The Revenge of the Sith novelization
    • Triton: Used in The Empire Strikes Back novelization
    • Varl: Used in The Clone Wars novelization, originally from Darksaber
    Characters:
    • Bel Iblis, Garm: Used in The Revenge of the Sith novelization, originally from Dark Force Rising
    • Gaib: Used in The Clone Wars novelization, originally from Republic Commando: True Colors
    • Nod, Lorian: Used in Revenge of the Sith novelization, originally from Legacy of the Jedi
    • Skirata, Kom'rk: Used in The Clone Wars novelization, originally from Republic Commando: Triple Zero
    • Tiure, Zorba: Used in The Clone Wars novelization, originally from Zorba the Hutt’s Revenge
    Species:
    • Blood Carver: Used in The Clone Wars novelization, originally from Rogue Planet
    • Goaasm: Used in Attack of the Clones novelization, originally from The Approaching Storm
    • Kaleesh: Used in Revenge of the Sith novelization, originally from Star Wars: Clone Wars Chapter 20
    Organizations:
    • Jal Shey: Used in The Clone Wars novelization, originally from Knights of the Old Republic: II
    • Kilian Rangers: Used in The Clone Wars novelization, originally from Rebellion Era Sourcebook
    • True Mandalorians: Used in The Clone Wars novelization, originally from Jango Fett: Open Seasons
    Vehicles:
    • Carrack-class Light Cruiser: Used in Revenge of the Sith novelization, originally from Heir to the Empire
    Events:
    • Battle of Galidraan: Used in The Clone Wars novelization, originally from Jango Fett: Open Seasons
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  25. cthugha Force Ghost

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    Okay, the comlink spelling might be nitpicking (and who knows? maybe the double-m is the new standard for the new canon?) -- but "all the shots went wild" is really just embarrassingly bad editing.