PT Red Letter Media and other Prequel Reviews

Yeah, Owen didn't agree because Anakin's ideal later let him became Vader, and possibly due to Shmi could not live with her son anymore. He was keep hiding the truth of Anakin from Luke clearly because he didn't want Luke to go to the same the path as Anakin. This all started from Owen kept the truth from Luke. He didn't agree with Anakin's choice to leave and they had different ideals, what does that have to do with he must be with Anakin when he left? I agree with Anakin's idea, does that mean I must be present with him in EP I?

Owen lived with Shmi for a while, so that gives him more reason to care about Anakin.

 

That isn't what is in the movie, you invented that. He did not approve of Anakin leaving because they had different ideals. That means he knew him when he left. YOU ARE INVENTING THE EXPLANATION THAT IT HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANAKIN'S FINAL FATE, THAT IS NOT FOUND IN THE SCENE. YOU HAVE TO INSERT THAT EXPLANATION TO MAKE IT WORK.

 

Sure, and this never means he was there with Anakin when he left, nor did it mean he had very close relationship with Anakin. So your points are invalid.

Yeah, if we link PT with OT that's the most reasonable explanation. It's not contradiction of OT at all.

 

It's not reasonable at all, it's a fan invention to explain away a flaw.

I think it's fine for individuals to choose to look at it your way if they want to. But it is not reasonable to expect others to buy in, because it's not what the movie is actually telling us.

 

It's never a flaw, since it could be understand differently. All I'm saying is this does not contradict anything with the PT since it told us very little information, Owen disagreed with Anakin's choice and didn't want Luke to know his father's life, simple.

 

But according to PT Owen barely knew Anakin.

 

Exactly, they were total strangers

 

Enough to let him to not let Luke walk to the same path.

 

What even though he only met him once.

 

But he surely would hear about him from Shmi, and later spent 18 years to raise Anakin's son.

 

It's clear the story we hear from Obi is very different than what we are given in the PT

 

Heard about him maybe. Met him once.

 

Again all we could make sure about it is:

And since you mentioned Obi Wan, if you remember well, the story we hear from Obi Wan is quite different than what we are given later in the OT.

And with Luke, it's enough to let him give an opinion of Anakin's choice to become a Jedi.

Actually you don't even need to meet a person to give opinion of a choice he made.

 

And we covered this, if you are suggesting that the entire scene is a lie, than it is a pointless scene.

Obi tells us one thing ,.Lucas decided to give us something else in the PT. I see no reason to explain that away. It is what it is.

Especially in this thread and context, because RLM is perfectly correct to point that out.

 

No, he gave us little information, it's not enough to know more than what I quoted, even if Obi Wan said was true.

So PT didn't show us something else, it's just different from what you had expected.

 

Well, we keep going around and around on this. The problem is, your explanation as to why Owen didn't approve of Anakin leaving the planet is not based on what is in the movie. You substituted your own explanation in for what Obiwan told us in plain English.

 

What's in the OT movie?
1. Vader never said he had close relationship with Owen, he never said he know Owen.
2. Owen never said anything about his relationship with Vader, he mostly worried about Luke would listen to Obi Wan and would walk to the path of his father.
3. Obi Wan also just said Owen disagree with Anakin's ways, thought Anakin should have stayed and not get involved.

Only No.3 mattered a little bit, and that didn't make sure anything about Owen was with Anakin, or had close relationship when he left Tatooine. In PT we saw Owen met Anakin, surely knew him from Shmi, and Luke would remind him of Anakin. So that's far from enough for him to make an opinion of Anakin's choice. Why must he had close relationship and was with Anakin at that time to give his opinion?

Later in OT, we knew Vader is Luke's father, so that didn't officially, but mostly give us a reason why Owen was so worried about Luke would go to the path of Anakin, why he didn't want Luke to talk with Obi Wan. It's not 100%, but a very logical quite possible explanation.

Also I thought about it again, Owen either knew

1. Anakin became Vader.
2. Anakin was killed in the war.

Either end provide him a very logical reason to stop Luke from walk into the same path as Anakin.

 

ANH tells us very plainly that the reason Owen did not want Anakin to leave the planet was that they did not share the same set of ideals.

That is what ObiWan said

Everything else. that's coming from you.

And what Obi says> than what a fan says

 

Yeah that's right. But in the PT Anakin meets Owen once.

 

It's not vague at all, you guys want it to be vague because it doesn't fit the way you would like. It's straightforward

 

Yes, and what did PT contradict with it?

 

All well and good, but still doesn't change the fact that Anakin met Owen once in the PT

 

You cant' disaprove of the actions of a person you don't know. Again, ObiWan is telling us this in the past tense, he is telling us that this is how Owen felt at the time.

You keep adding on the extra baggage, the movie does not.

 

Well he only met him once. That's the black and white of it.