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Religion Mocking

Discussion in 'Communications' started by YoungJedi11, Oct 17, 2003.

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  1. BOBAFETISH

    BOBAFETISH Jedi Knight star 5

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    Last bit, regarding your last post. If I jam a red hot poker in your eye, and then apologize for it- then say afterward that I don't feel that I did jam a poker in your eye...how are you feeling about that apology?



    Thought so.
     
  2. YoungJedi11

    YoungJedi11 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Since this thing is moving so quickly, I'm going back to Sha's post.

    She's right. I've talked to Trell too, and he does take that question seriously. He isn't purposefully trying to offend people, and I never meant to imply him as one that does by the creation of this thread or other comments made.

    Despite his beliefs to the contrary, he's not disrepectful about it.
     
  3. Trell

    Trell Jedi Knight star 6

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    Last bit, regarding your last post. If I jam a red hot poker in your eye, and then apologize for it- then say afterward that I don't feel that I did jam a poker in your eye...how are you feeling about that apology?

    That had nothing to do with anything, and takes everything out of context, and scale.

    No.

    Er... to try to fix what I said: His example is intentional cruelity.
     
  4. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    That's quite enough.

    If you want to continue this, do it outside this thread, and preferably off the JC.
     
  5. Jedi_Sha

    Jedi_Sha Jedi Master star 5

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    irrelevant, bf.

    that comparison isn't even worthy to be called a comparison.

    because see, jamming a red hot poker in someone's eye would be intentional.

    now if you were tossing a red hot poker around and it happened to jam into my eye... then you apologized and said you didn't mean for it to hurt me, THEN that would be a worthy comparison.
     
  6. BOBAFETISH

    BOBAFETISH Jedi Knight star 5

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    I really wanted to avoid this.
     
  7. Trell

    Trell Jedi Knight star 6

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    It was edited out above.

    Just want to say, this was edited to get rid of BF's offensive remarks. (I didn't do it! :p )

    Final thought on the subject: I have two Christians agreeing that a. my post wasn't offensive, and b. I did not mean it as such.
     
  8. epic

    epic Ex Mod star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    you two are so cute when you argue

    :p
     
  9. Trell

    Trell Jedi Knight star 6

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    Aren't we though?
     
  10. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    Wait, going back a few posts for Stacky...

    I find it offensive that people inconsiderately call Jesus 'Our' Lord and Saviour, etc. Implying that for some reason, I must also pay homage to him. He had good ideas, yeah. But, he's not my Lord, Saviour, Whatever.

    See, that's where I feel people take a turn into oversensitivity. I am Jewish. I am clearly not Catholic or Christian in any way. If the Catholics or Christians or any singular member of those orders refer to Jesus as "our Lord and Savior" -- they cannot, by definition, be referring to you. Since you do not identify with the group, you make the call to not be included in the word "our." If they preach as to how Jesus is YOUR Lord and Savior, then you have a possibly legitimate belief, or at least an occasion to say your piece on what you think of Jesus.

    But the oversensitivity cuts both ways, and both sides have to acknowledge that there is some stuff on either side that you can CHOOSE to be rankled by as well as some stuff on either side that is outright, blatantly offensive.

    The above example is the former and definitely not the latter.
     
  11. Trell

    Trell Jedi Knight star 6

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    ^ I agree.
     
  12. Stackpole_The_Hobbit

    Stackpole_The_Hobbit Jedi Master star 6

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    I know. I was making an example :p

    Also, a bit of a 'heat of the moment' thing.
     
  13. Trell

    Trell Jedi Knight star 6

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    ^I thought as much.
     
  14. YoungJedi11

    YoungJedi11 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Well put, dp.
     
  15. Bria

    Bria Manager Emeritus, -MNFF Council star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    But the oversensitivity cuts both ways, and both sides have to acknowledge that there is some stuff on either side that you can CHOOSE to be rankled by as well as some stuff on either side that is outright, blatantly offensive.

    I couldn't have said it better myself, dp4m. Some things are outright and obniouxsly offensive. Other things aren't, but can be made out to be worse than they are.

    When I first was contacted about Trell's thread, I'll admit that given my beliefs, I could've done without it. But at the same time, I didn't see a clear cut issue that neeeded to be stopped immediately. It appeared to be just a light hearted comedic question, and as such, I was ok with it remaining up.
     
  16. Trell

    Trell Jedi Knight star 6

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    That's what I've been trying to say! :p

    So... can it get unlocked... please...? :( :p

    Seriously though, glad to see that at least some people saw it for what it was.
     
  17. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It's not going to be unlocked.
     
  18. Stackpole_The_Hobbit

    Stackpole_The_Hobbit Jedi Master star 6

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    Yeah, I'm pretty sure Trell was joking about it being unlocked, as evidenced by the ' :p' he used, as well as in his next statement, saying 'seriously'.
     
  19. Darth-Stryphe

    Darth-Stryphe Former Mod and City Rep star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Why are there ten pages of this thread?

    Religion mocking = flame-baiting (potentially bannable offense)
    Religion criticism = senate forum discussion.

    It's really that simple.

    EDIT: Darth-stryphe = person who can't spell.
     
  20. Trell

    Trell Jedi Knight star 6

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    Because we've gotten into what exactally constitutes mocking, or comedy, etc.
     
  21. Stackpole_The_Hobbit

    Stackpole_The_Hobbit Jedi Master star 6

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    You (conveniently) forgot Religion Joking.
     
  22. Genghis12

    Genghis12 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    A priest, a rabbi and a hari krishna were on a plane...
     
  23. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    "Pear Pimples for Hairy Fishnuts?"
     
  24. Katya Jade

    Katya Jade Administrator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    "Pear Pimples for Hairy Fishnuts?"

    [face_laugh]
     
  25. Trell

    Trell Jedi Knight star 6

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