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Republicans gain control of senate!! (Official 2002 Election results thread)

Discussion in 'Archive: The Senate Floor' started by darthmomm, Nov 6, 2002.

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  1. darthmomm

    darthmomm Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Ok guys, now that the elections are over, and the majority of the votes have been counted, the headline of the day is...

    Republicans gain control over senate!!

    Now this has not happened in years...it is quite historic...

    so, what do you think?

    What are the ramifications?
    What is going to happen to our economy?
    Are we going to war?
    Will there be a gun in every pot?

    Let the politics begin!!
     
  2. Lordban

    Lordban Isildur's Bane star 7

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    Well, President Bush is sure to gain a freer hand. I hope he uses it not solely for war against Iraq but also to revitalize an ailing economy that really needs it.
     
  3. KaineDamo

    KaineDamo Jedi Youngling star 5

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    This sucks. And the sad thing is you guys won't realise just how bad this all is until 10 or more years from now.
     
  4. darthmomm

    darthmomm Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Kain, I agree....I am truly scared over this.

    When radicals take over the US, it is very very scary. We may as well say goodbye to our basic freedoms...you know, 1st ammendment, and all that we know.

    Say goodbye to reproductive rights....and hello to Ashcroft in my uterous.

    Religion is going to be forced down our throats...

    It is going to be sad.....very sad.

    Remember Weimar Germany......
     
  5. Jon_Snow

    Jon_Snow Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I think that it?s silly to think that because the Republicans have taken over the Senate that the nation will automatically descend into some sort of fascist regime. I don?t think that it?s any worse to have the Republicans in charge of everything than to have the Democrats in charge of everything.

    The only thing that does worry me at all is the lack of balance ? there?s no opposition that can slow things down in some cases, and there?s no great advocate for other issues that has any power. I think that having Republicans in charge of everything, gay rights and abortion and environmental issues will fall to the wayside, while the economy and the military will come to the forefront. The gun lobby is also safe for the foreseeable future. It?s not the end of the world?
     
  6. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    Feb 18, 2001
    Heh, and Republicans almost have control of this Senate too! :D

    E_S
     
  7. DarthPhelps

    DarthPhelps Jedi Master star 5

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    Jan 31, 2002
    When radicals take over the US

    No, they lost the majority.

    *runs away*
     
  8. Fire_Ice_Death

    Fire_Ice_Death Force Ghost star 7

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    I'm in Maryland, right? So Kathleen Kennedy-Townsend, or Robert Erlich. I'd have voted for Erlich. I don't much like Townsend. She was gonna bring affirmative action to Maryland. :eek: Is it just me or does getting a job based on a quota/race seem wrong?
     
  9. farraday

    farraday Jedi Knight star 7

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    Remember Wiemar Germany?

    Oh please, is there a sock called Political_Melodrama floating around here?

    The Republicans will probably have 52 to 53 seats in the senate. For those of you unfamiliar with politics this means the Democrats still have for 41 needed to fillibuster which I have no doubt we shall have an earful of in the next two years.

    Other then that, yeah I don't think this needs it's own topic.
     
  10. Jon_Snow

    Jon_Snow Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Oh please, is there a sock called Political_Melodrama floating around here?

    There could be. :D
     
  11. TripleB

    TripleB Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well, I can only imagine, that right now, there are a LOT of depressed Clinton Loving Liberals, who are scratching their heads, trying to wonder how the mid term elections of 2002, which in the past have always been a good day for the party out of power, are wondering how this blew up in their face.

    Even before September 11th, I felt that the Republicans would retake all when everyones favorite yellow-coat, Jim Jeffords, made his switch. I knew that Tom Daschle would be totally incapable of the role of leadership, and he did not let me down. Add to it the conduct of the democrats on the Senate Judiciary comittee, and I knew that Republicans were going to regain power anyway.

    But September 11th did happen. I was not suprised much in the way Bush handled things in truth- I knew he was more then up to the job.


    I will add a little bit more. As I write this, the race in South Dakota is still too close to call, although John Thune (R) is still in the lead. If Thune wins, giving the Republicans a 52 seat majority, I believe we may see Jim Jeffords become a Republican again.....

    Also, for all you Europeans out there, have I ever told you how much I despise (insert name of European liberal political party or politician here).

    Bottom line- It is our Country, not yours.
     
  12. Darth_Reign

    Darth_Reign Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Where is the doctrine of Separtion of Powers now?

    The system in America is almost a Herditary Monarchy nowadays, with the way that a President (Bush) can ensure that his lineage will also become presidents (George and probably Jeb, later on). Now George Bush Jr. will be able to wield power like a King, virtually unchecked.

    America is losing sight of the foundations on which it's country was built. A land of freedom, where justice prevails, where tyrants cannot reign.

    With the increasingly more powerful Presidents in modern days, and the Business Moguls, it seems that it's only a matter of time until American politics reach a point where the constitution is irrelevant.

    It's only going to get worse.

     
  13. Jon_Snow

    Jon_Snow Jedi Youngling star 3

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    It?s not that bad. In the theoretical worst case scenario, there will be two years in which the Republicans can reign unchecked, turning over civil liberties and mucking up the country. Then what happens? Elections. And if the Republicans have done a bad job, Bush is out of office, and so are a lot of other politicians.
     
  14. farraday

    farraday Jedi Knight star 7

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    Reign you do realize that america survived the election of a father and son in the 1800s right? The Adams monarchy isn't ruling the US right now, you realize this?

    And of course in the early 1990's the democrats controleld both houses of congress and the presidency and except for some extreme right wing republicans no one thinks that caused the world to implode.

    Yeah so political melodrama is a bad thing mmkay?
     
  15. TripleB

    TripleB Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Clinton got over 90% of his judges approved. Check your facts, Obi-Wan.

    Notable people or groups that are notably the winners in the 2002 Election include....

    President George W Bush He seems to be a lot smarter then any of you gave credit to him for. So go ahead, keep underestimating him.....

    THe National Rifle Association Virtually everyone they endorsed won their races. They again proved that they are the top lobby group in the Country and deservedly so. I consider myself a Patriot first, Republican second, so my NRA loyalty takes precedence here.

    Notable people or groups that are the notable losers in the 2002 Election Include.....

    Terry McAullife Wow did you ever screw up..... He is not even sure he will have a job next week, so he just said in on FOX NEWS a few minutes ago.

    GunBanners/ THe Brady Campaign the fact that they have already been marginalized to the fringe extreme of politics was good. The fact that virtually everyone they endorsed lost even in democrat strongholds shows that they are done for now.
    I mean, gosh, Kathleen Kenedy Townsend lost in MARYLAND, a state that as a 2-1 Democrat advantage....

    The New York Times Why people call this magazine the greatest newspaper in the world is beyond me.

    The Clinton Legacy According to clinton's former political advisor Dick Morris, The Clintons had 3 main goals in this mid term election. 1) Back in the action (yes, they sure did that, of course, on the wrong end of it) 2) they want credit for the Clinton Years (seems the American people thought differently of it) , and 3) To Humiliate the Bush Family. Clinton strikes out on all three ends.

    California Since I knew that the Republicans would keep the House and retake the Senate by a few seats to prevent Mr Chaffee of Rhode island from jumping ship, it made California one of those rare 'Win-Win' scenario's. First off, I don't buy into the whole 'if a state has a Republican Governor, it is a lock for Bush' theory. In 2000, Pennsylvannia, Michigan, Wisconcin all had Republican Governors and Bush did not carry any of the three (albiet all 3 were close races).

    So the California governers race presented a Win-Win scenario for me. I know Bush will carry this state in 2004 anyway. The real thing is do I want to see Gray Davis fired for perhaps the most corrupt mismanagement that a public official ever had done? Or do I want the corrupt, incompetent mismanager to win a 2nd term, since I firmly believe he will now be the Democrat's presidential nominee in 2004? I guess I get #2, because I believe he is going to be the sacrificial lamb for the Democrats in 2004.
     
  16. MariahJade2

    MariahJade2 Former Fan Fiction Archive Editor star 5 VIP

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    When everything is stalled because of gridlock nothing ever gets accomplished. That's eliminated. It will be the Republicans that have to shoulder the responsiblity now if the Presidents policies don't work. If they don't, then the next election will reflect that. A problem I foresee is that instead of taking advantage of this opportunity they will find a way to blow it and go too far creating a backlash against them in the future.
     
  17. JediSmuggler

    JediSmuggler Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    MariahJade2:

    I don't think that will happen. The GOP is run by some very smart pros who have, for the most part, done very well.

    They'll peel off enough votes to get what they need. The big thing is the judicial nominations that would have been confirmed by a full Senate will not be bottled up in committee.

    No more borking.
     
  18. Rikalonius

    Rikalonius Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Kain, I agree....I am truly scared over this.

    too bad for you, eh? I've been afraid for 10 years as I watched Bill and Hillary try dismantle many civil rights. Their matra was "fairness" where as the republican matra is "national security" either one in excess is bad. But I look at Republicans as the more benevolent of the two bad parties.

    When radicals take over the US, it is very very scary. We may as well say goodbye to our basic freedoms...you know, 1st ammendment, and all that we know.

    How about the second amendment. I'm sure that isn't nearly as important in your leftist eye. But if anyone is denying free speech, it was the liberal left. What do you think the "politcal correctness" movement is?

    Say goodbye to reproductive rights....and hello to Ashcroft in my uterous.


    Tired old platitudes. Show me in the constitution were it empowers or even suggests the Federal Government should protect your so-called reproductive rights. What the hell does that mean anyway? But, what is John Ashcroft going to do? Is he suddenly going to order the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade. Next to the New Jersy decision of recent weeks, Roe is one of the clearest examples of the Court legislating from the bench. Something our founding fathers did not intend. No, don't worry, your uterus is safe.

    Religion is going to be forced down our throats...

    Religion is already being forced down our throats. It is called Naturalism. The teaching of one theory while not allowing any descention by competing theory. Even fireing qualified professors for not teaching these theories correctly. All under the mantra of "Science"

    It is going to be sad.....very sad.

    A sad day for people looking for handouts.

    Remember Weimar Germany......

    I don't have time to give you a complete history lesson on the fall of Germany, but in closing. The Weimar Republic more represented today what we would call moderate democrats, and the Nation SOCIALIST Party, or NAZI represented the radical left in this country. Hillary Clinton, in my opinion, has more in common with Adolf Hitler, than George Bush ever will.
     
  19. Jades Fire

    Jades Fire Jedi Padawan star 4

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    In 5 to 10 years, abortion will be illegal again in the United States because the Senate will now rubber stamp all of Bush's judicial nominees.

    Bush can now pretty much steamroll his entire very conservative agenda through the Congress.

    Drilling in ANWAR will now commence. The Vice President's Energy policy, co-written by Enron and other Energy company officials, will pass on a party line vote.

    And if Bibi Netanyahu wins election to Prime Minister in Israel, he and Bush will be the ones to blame for getting us into World War 3.

     
  20. Grand Moff Joker

    Grand Moff Joker Jedi Master star 4

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    No spam, please.

    Bah. No fun at all.
     
  21. TheScarletBanner

    TheScarletBanner Jedi Padawan star 4

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    NAZI represented the radical left in this country

    The Nazi's were fascists disguising themselves as the radical left. Whatever they represented, or what they said, they were not radical left. Their racism, nationalism and fascism belonged solely to the far right.

    - TSB.
     
  22. tenorjedi

    tenorjedi Jedi Knight star 5

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    Hide your children the Republican monster is out to get them!!!

    I love the ideology that anyone that disagrees with you is inheritantly stupid and evil.

    Remember that amendments still take a 2/3rds majority. Republican control of two branches of the government will free up the president to push through the judges, and maybe some economic recovery but it will not allow some sweeping facist regime. Good lord, political melodrama is right.


    Won't someone please think of the children!! *faints*
     
  23. farraday

    farraday Jedi Knight star 7

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    If anything happens in relation to abortion it will be that it's relegated to a state matter.

    Scare tactics are wonderful but you might want to sit down before you hyperventilate.
     
  24. SirLancelot

    SirLancelot Jedi Padawan star 4

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    When radicals take over the US, it is very very scary. We may as well say goodbye to our basic freedoms...you know, 1st ammendment, and all that we know

    personally, as a middle class white male, many liberals have strived to destroy my freedoms in the name of 'Equality' or rights simply becaue of that i am now the most descrimentated person in the US

    Say goodbye to reproductive rights....and hello to Ashcroft in my uterous.

    why is it our governemnt endorses the killing of innocent children, yet we cnat prosecute drunk drivers who kill people?

    Religion is going to be forced down our throats

    we are given freedom of religion not freedom from religion. if a person, even a political figure, wants to talk about god freely then its their right

    It is going to be sad.....very sad.

    A sad day for people looking for handouts.


    ya, people who live off other americans high taxes arnt americans, they are leeches. get up, and get a job. rather then complain to me you dont have any money get off yhour butt and get a job and earn some money like the people you leech off of.
     
  25. TripleB

    TripleB Jedi Padawan star 4

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    TheScarletBanner said

    >>The Nazi's were fascists disguising themselves as the radical left. Whatever they represented, or what they said, they were not radical left. Their racism, nationalism and fascism belonged solely to the far right. <<

    Oh, the Nazi's were fascists? You mean that Italy under Mussollini took over Germany, overthrew the Nazi party and instituted his Fascist government in it's place? When did that happen?

    The Nazi's were socialists, that is what their name meant. Granted, it became a Dictactorship under Hitler when he becane the Fuhrer. But the Fascists of Italy never took over the country and put Fascism in the place of the Nazi's......

     
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