"This place", if I may say, was not in "need" of some "order". It was never about that, because we've always been quite happy to just go along, doing our own thing, as we always have been - and there has *never* been a problem in the galaxy with that. Well, not until lately, anyway, it seems....and that in itself is something hardly fathomable, or indeed, palatable for that matter. I daresay that what we need here is simply to be left alone....to be allowed to do our thing, without fear of being targeted, slammed down, or otherwise made to feel that we have somehow committed some eggregious, grievous error - simply by trying to have a conversation, and in venting a little to others of like mind and perspectives. What we need, in other words, is what we have always needed here....peace, and security, and to be able to trust that we're not going to be made to feel like the bad guy, the guilty party in any particular scenario - when *we* simply are not. We just *aren't*. I am quite sure, of course, that it is realized that once we were through venting a little, once we had satisfactorily resolved it - gotten it out of our systems, one might say - then we moved on to other things, and not a whisper or whit of trouble was ever heard. This is, after all, the way that conversations go....they are inherently fluid, following their own natural path. That's what we've always done, because that is the nature of things here....one topic branches into another, something that one person says stimulates conversation in an entirely different direction....one moment we may feel the need to express, to vent, about certain things - but you will notice that we *never* attack anyone personally....we're not going around flaming anyone. We never have. To vent, expressing emotion to others who sympathize, and are of similar bent or perspective - this is not flaming, nor is it attacking, nor is it anything reprehensible or reproachable. It is simply conversing, human contact, discussion as everyone else does it on the boards - what we do here is what's done elsewhere - and I simply fail to see how anything that we have said or done is such a grievous, insulting error. *We*, after all, have never been the problem thread, or otherwise proven ourselves to be insulting, disruptive, negative users who must apparently be rebuked and "shown the way"....*surely* no one is saying that. Because to say it would be coming across as very hurtful would be understating the case....I am sure. What we need, finally, is what everyone here needs - to be treated fairly, in an even-handed, above-board, tolerant, understanding manner....*not* to be made to feel as though we must be targeted and solely made out to be the villain of the piece, as the saying goes. What we need is to be *trusted*. We were before, and there is absolutely no reason why we cannot be again. We deserve better than this....that is the level, sincere, honest, heartfelt truth. We deserve better than this present unsettling, hurtful treatment....in our situation, anyone would. We are not, nor have we ever been, the bad guys here. We should not be treated as though we are. Dawn.