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ST Rey's Lineage / Parentage / Name

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by interxavier01, Dec 19, 2015.

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Who are Rey's parents?

  1. Luke and ????

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  2. Han and Leia

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  1. Thrawn082

    Thrawn082 Force Ghost star 6

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    I can buy the MF getting stolen from Han. We see in the OT that Han is not as "smooth" as he seems to think that he is, and that doesn't seem to have changed much over the decades. His "talking his way out of trouble" usually means "utterly fail to do that, and then just shoot my way out instead." So another shady character managed to get the better of him at one point, it's not that hard to buy (it's happened before after all).

    And no, Finn doesn't fly anything. His not being a pilot is a plot-point (it's why he needed to bust out Poe in the first place, because Poe IS a pilot, and it's how Rey gets involved in the main plot). He DOES prove to be quite good at figuring out how to use ships guns (TIE cannons, MF gun turrets) despite having never used them before.
     
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  2. MeBeJedi

    MeBeJedi Force Ghost star 6

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    I'm wondering how similar the controls are between the two ships.
     
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  3. Thrawn082

    Thrawn082 Force Ghost star 6

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    I mean he mentions having experience with a blaster, and Poe tells him that the "same principle" applies to the TIE cannons. And it takes him a little bit to get the hang of the gun turrets (just like Rey destroys part of Nima Outpost while trying to take off, another parallel between them perhaps). But he seems to just, as they say, "catch on quick." And the actually triggers probably aren't that different, it's just a matter of figuring out the different targeting systems.
     
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  4. RobbyV

    RobbyV Jedi Master star 4

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    Tanjint, I'm speaking as a "GA" representative here -- I think I've said it here that when I first watched all of the PT I only watched them once. I can fully understand why Kasdan didn't know who Plagueis was -- as a character he was just some hearsay from Palpatine, his name mentioned only once in all of Star Wars films in a five-minute conversation. Movie viewers aren't expected to remember something mentioned in such a seemingly innocuous scene then never again. Plagueis was really just a tool to flesh out Palpatine's character -- as a great manipulator and opportunist. He was also important in so far as providing the justification for Anakin's conversion -- the power to prevent loved ones from dying. In that scene Plagueis had served his purpose. So I really doubt anything will come out of it in the new trilogy. I'd bet $1000 that over 50% of people who watched all the PT once don't know his name, $700 that over 70% don't know him, and maybe $500 for 80%. Now if Lucas had presented the scene differently -- with flashback scenes of Plagueis while Palpatine was narrating -- then yes, you could probably expect Lucas was intending to come back to that character some day. But the way it was done -- name mentioned once in the whole of six films, I really doubt you'd see any more of him outside of EU or maybe future canon material outside of films (and those stories of Plagueis now in Legends status).

    In the same manner, TFA makes no mention of prophecies and obviously the OT didn't as well. I think that's a sign of things to come (or not to come). Personally I thought of that prophecy as another tool for character development as well -- it was a retcon to help shape Qui Gon as having had instincts superior to the other Jedi council members. This is probably another thing a lot of the GA who watched PT don't remember, though I woudn't say it's as many as those who don't know Plagueis. Interesting though, that the novel has something else seemingly overriding the prophecy.
     
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  5. MeBeJedi

    MeBeJedi Force Ghost star 6

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    But the TFA novel does, as did the early ANH scripts....but you're right; the OT and TFA films don't mention it. The ANH novel does have this line from the "Journal of the Whills", which is presumably where the original prophecy came from:

    Journal of the Whills "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally they became heroes."
     
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  6. IamZam

    IamZam Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The Falcon isn't just a ship, it's a character in it's own right.

    I think it may have some say in who is "the right crew".

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  7. RobbyV

    RobbyV Jedi Master star 4

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    I didn't see that in the novel. Which page was this on? The only reference to the Journal I saw was on the page preceding the "crawl" text.
     
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  8. Black Leader

    Black Leader Jedi Knight star 1

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    http://www.coffeewithkenobi.com/an-...novelization-by-guest-blogger-mike-macdonald/
     
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  9. RobbyV

    RobbyV Jedi Master star 4

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    Ok, stupid me... I misread. I thought MeBeJedi said the TFA novel :oops:
     
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  10. MeBeJedi

    MeBeJedi Force Ghost star 6

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    I would never mislead you. ;)
     
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  11. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    [​IMG]

    This is a picture of Reys family ship. We see her with her parents.
    I believe Rey knows who her parents are because if she had her mind erased or her memory, she would accept Jakku as her home and not want to seek anyone.
    If Luke was her father. She would run up to him and hug him, at least that's what i would do if I saw a relative of mine. So..... If Reys memory was erased, she wouldn't be expecting anyone. Yet she is... Hmmmm

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  12. MeBeJedi

    MeBeJedi Force Ghost star 6

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    I'd be wary about taking an artist's concept as canon.
     
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  13. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It's from the book The Art of Star Wars the Force Awakens though. It's official concept.

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  14. MeBeJedi

    MeBeJedi Force Ghost star 6

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    This was in a similar book.

    [​IMG]
     
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  15. Darphus_Mon

    Darphus_Mon Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I still think Kylo ditched Rey on Jakku with Unkar Plutt and the MF was payment to keep her and his mouth shut. IMHO Kylo stole MF from Han when he leaves Luke's academy for Snoke.
     
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  16. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    At least the image I posted could be seen in the force awakens

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  17. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    What's MF???

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  18. MeBeJedi

    MeBeJedi Force Ghost star 6

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    Actually, it wasn't.
     
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  19. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It was we saw the ship going away. So that's her family ship and Rey yelled come back so she knows who she is and she is waiting for someone so her memory wasn't erased. Of it was erased she wouldn't be waiting for anyone.

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  20. Thrawn082

    Thrawn082 Force Ghost star 6

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    We see A ship leaving, and we know that she believes that people whom she THINKS are her family, will come back for her one day. But we don't know if she's correct about them being her family, and she didn't seem to consciously recall being left on Jakku until she touches the Bespin Saber.

    Basically it's way too ambiguous/unclear right now to make any solid conclusions, imo.
     
  21. RobbyV

    RobbyV Jedi Master star 4

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    Little_Boots,

    This concept art was also in the book, an image of Rey watching a trader family leaving Jakku:

    [​IMG]
     
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  22. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Well I read the story before the one they have now was supposed to centre around her wanting to leave Jakku desperately and not stay much like Luke but they chose the opposite of that and instead had her desperate to stay on Jakku

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  23. LadyPadme

    LadyPadme Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Little_Boots: MF is Millennium Falcon.

    And official concept art is still just concept. Remember, in concept form Luke was supposed to be female and Han Solo a green skinned alien, so concept art does not equal final canon. Only the movies count in the end.
     
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  24. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Well I was just giving an opinion sorry of I offended anyone.

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  25. MeBeJedi

    MeBeJedi Force Ghost star 6

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    No one was offended... You just need to be careful what you call "canon". Concept art is just an artist drawing the writer's ideas.... and those ideas can change during production/filming.
     
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