ST Rian Johnson to write and direct Episode VIII (and also new SW Trilogy - see page 194)

Could you actually point me to any of the cast where they refer to tlj as a great film? Lets be honest they aren't t going to say anything negative about it, although saying that mark and daisy pretty much did on numerous occasions!...

 

I didn't say he wasn't a fan, just maybe not completely onboard with them. Some of his comments have been a bit condescending.

 

Objectively, TLJ has two jobs:
-get a good RT score (which it has)
-make a ton of money (which it will soon)

Everything else is arbitrary.

 

I’m not sold on the ton of money aspect. The film is coming off as divisive from the people who would’ve contributed multiple viewings. I know opening weekend will be huge but I wouldn’t be surprised if this film has a huge second week drop. It’s definitely it grossing anywhere near TFA

 

Christ, this thread has become as bile-filled as the JJ thread. I think it’s time for some people to find a new hobby.


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**** rian jhonson. Get your hands of my star wars.

 

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I'm glad he gets to do something utterly and forever unrelated to any of these characters. Having said that, it IS a beautifully shot and directed film. I just hated the story.

 

You are right here and I picked up on that too. They never said it was an "amazing" or "great" film. They always used language like "shocking, different, unexpected." I don't think Daisy Ridley likes the story at all. But what can she do; she isn't gonna trash it publicly.

 

Totally agree, but I would've thought Rian the fan would have taken it much more seriously to ensure he got it right. I guess he did, in his mind. I don't think he just sold his soul to LFL. This was his creation, and it's radically different.

 

I hope the film will have a huge second weekend drop at least. That way LFL would at least know that something is off.

 

I'm looking forward to RJ's trilogy. I haven't seen TLJ yet, and I had a pretty strong negative reaction when I read the spoilers. Mostly because I wasn't expecting (or asking for) a film that broke free from many of the saga's conventions and turned everything on its head. I wanted to see that sort of thing outside of the saga films.

Even if I dislike TLJ, I don't see it having that much relevance to whether I like his new trilogy. I don't have a 40 year emotional investment in that.

 

You can see things before they happen. It's a Jedi trait.

 

After the movie, I was thinking that if this was a KOTOR movie, it would have been absolutely fine. But it isn't.

Anyway is it just me but isn't the mind bond trope really, really lazy to use in a big blockbuster like this? I mean, I love fan-fiction, and the trope can work well if done right, but to use it as the lynchpin of a blockbuster movie is just pure lazy. Without the mind bond, the Luke/Rey/Ren arc would be impossible the way it happens in the movie. To me, this is the most worrying thing.

As an aside, what on earth is the story group doing? Surely there is good EU precedent for how mind bonds work. Why didn't we even get a single whit of explanation of how the bond between Ben and Rey happened?

 

Snoke.

Everything and anything bad and evil = "Snoke".

 

I don't think it will flop but I don't think it beats Rogue One. CNN and Gamestop both gave it less than good reviews, the gloves are coming off now.

 

So... yeah.. more from Rian Johnson please.

 

Yuuup. I can't wait to see him fully unleashed when he gets to work with an entirely blank canvas.

 

Yeah, somehow with those kind of reviews and an 85 metacritic score, some folks are cherry picking the reviews to say the film is being poorly received.

 

Very unlikely. This is the honeymoon phase. If people generally end up viewing the movie unfavorably, you won't know until March or april, i'd guess.