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Official Info Rian Johnson to write and direct Episode VIII (and also new SW Trilogy - see page 194)

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Sequel Trilogy (Released Films)' started by Momotaros, Jun 20, 2014.

  1. jamminjedi23

    jamminjedi23 Jedi Master star 4

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    Yep. a lot of people have been acting like complete hooligans towards RJ over social media. Some people just need to have twitter taken away from them if they act inappropriately enough. As far as I know people can say pretty much anything they want with absolutely no repercussions on twitter.
     
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  2. Harbour

    Harbour Jedi Knight star 3

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    The sudden news about the writers of the unnecessary new new trilogy make me think something gonna happen with RJ being the writer of the new trilogy. Why did Disney want to create the second new trilogy if we know nothing about the first new trilogy? If there was enough SW movies alread. Thats the legit thing to think about. I think with GoT creators hired as the writers of the new new trilogy, the RJ fate was sealed.
     
  3. ImpreciseStormtrooper

    ImpreciseStormtrooper Jedi Knight star 2

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    Have to say my first reaction was that Disney are hedging.

    If one team has a great treatment and the other is no good they cut it to the curb.

    Best case scenario, if both trilogies are amazing on paper they get another decade of so of new content.
     
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  4. AndrewPascoe

    AndrewPascoe Jedi Master star 4

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    Someone said it earlier - if Marvel can manage multiple films at a time so can Lucasfilm as they have for the past 3 years.

    The other thing to consider is they’re not releasing all 6 movies at once. It could easily go in a RJ1, DD1, RJ2, DD2 etc etc.

    I will say however that I feel that singular Anthology films might be off the table after the next one to leave room for the new trilogies.

    So ideally it could go like -

    2018 - SOLO
    2019 - SWIX
    2020 - last standalone Anthology for the time being (possibly Kenobi)
    2021 - RJ1
    2022 - DD1

    And then alternate until each is wrapped up before potentially returning to the Skywalker Saga or focus on a series of one offs.
     
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  5. Lt. Hija

    Lt. Hija Jedi Master star 4

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    When I read the news this morning, my first thought had been "So this is how Disney reacts to the 'nonexistent' TLJ backlash (and Mr. Johnson)". Frankly, I never understood why Mr. Johnson had been announced to create a new trilogy before TLJ was released. IMHO, common sense would have suggested to first release TLJ, examine the reactions, and then decide who to put in charge of a new SW trilogy.

    I'm afraid two co-existing new trilogies will confuse general audiences, I'd bet they just go for one and produce anthology films to fill the 'gaps'.
     
  6. CEB

    CEB Force Ghost star 5

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    A lot of people projecting their desire onto this announcement.

    No, this doesn’t mean that RJ will be pushed aside -
    “two co-existing trilogies will confuse audiences”

    1: audiences have had no problems with understanding the difference between saga entries and spinoffs thus far
    2: As far as I’m aware, D&D’s films have not been referred to as a “trilogy” anywhere, so you’re arguing against something that hasn’t been claimed.
    3: At ‘this stage, there’s literally nothing that Disney/Lucasfilm could do that wouldn’t be viewed by “backlashers” as a reaction or response. If Lucasfilm don’t want RJ’s trilogy, they’ll get rid of RJ. RJ hasn’t been gotten rid of.
     
  7. Lt. Hija

    Lt. Hija Jedi Master star 4

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    My (white-collar) colleagues at work asked me repeatedly about the order and chronology of SW films, they hadn't memorized where the PT fit in, had a basic understanding that TFA would be a sequel to the OT (because of an older Harrison Ford), but wouldn't understand where Rogue One fit in.

    For us fans these things may be crystal clear, but based on my personal experience this apparently doesn't necessarily apply for general audiences.
     
  8. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Jedi Master star 5

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    Why is it relevant they are white-collar?
     
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  9. Lt. Hija

    Lt. Hija Jedi Master star 4

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    Because with construction workers or people with a less-educated background there might be less doubt that they could be confused.
     
  10. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Jedi Master star 5

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  11. Satipo

    Satipo Force Ghost star 7

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    Jesus Christ.

    Look, it will be simple. As the content of the new films becomes clear, marketing campaigns will show audiences what is going on with what. I will never understand the pearl-clutching of the hardcore fans who worry about whether the normals will have the brain power to understand the concept of different stories.

    And no, RJ's trilogy is going nowhere. That's why they namechecked it in the announcement.

    We have the next 10 or so years of SW movies lining up now. If you don't like the idea of RJ's trilogy, you don't have to watch it. There will be something else to fill your SW fix.
     
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  12. Oissan

    Oissan Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Some people are trying really hard to find a straw to cling to...
    Whenever something gets reported, they twist themselves into a pretzel so that they can read into the news whatever they desperately want to happen.

    As has been mentioned above, no, the Johnson trilogy isn't going anywhere. Not only has that trilogy been explicitly named in the new announcement, but the whole timing makes it abundantly clear that this has nothing to do with TLJ. When you make a new project, you don't just ask someone, get an immediate reply and then announce it right afterwards. This whole thing is a process, one that takes quite a bit of time. In no way was this thought of, decided upon and announced in the matter of just a few weeks. Which means that this whole thing had been going on before TLJ was even released.
     
  13. Darth Vain

    Darth Vain Jedi Knight star 1

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    Not your finest hour. Really.
     
  14. CEB

    CEB Force Ghost star 5

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    Just wow at that response.

    Ironically, the only people who seem to have trouble understanding Star Wars are some hardcore fans blinded by biases.
    Star Wars itself is INCREDIBLY accessible, and barely “nerdy” at all.
     
  15. AndrewPascoe

    AndrewPascoe Jedi Master star 4

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    The audience had no issues differentiating R1 from the Saga films. With ticket prices as high as they these days people don’t just go into a movie clueless about what it is. Sure they will be the odd person here or there that might be confused but general audiences aren’t stupid.

    They’ll work in tandem. It’ll be fine. RJ is fine, we’re all fine. How are you?
     
  16. Ender_and_Bean

    Ender_and_Bean Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    This makes sense. They want more, not less. And they trust RJ.
     
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  17. Alliyah Skywalker

    Alliyah Skywalker Jedi Knight star 3

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    My best guess for the GOT creators? Any version of KOTOR or at least far into the past. Would seem perfect for them.
     
  18. ChildOfWinds

    ChildOfWinds Force Ghost star 6

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    My question is why does almost everything need to be a trilogy? Why can’t there just be all stand alone films once the skywalker saga is finished? There certainly would be less chance for continuity errors that way, and if one doesn’t like the premise of the film, it’s one and done, whereas when there’s a trilogy, it’s highly likely that if someone doesn’t like the first one, he/she isn’t going to be chomping at the bit to see the other two.
     
  19. TheFastJedi

    TheFastJedi Jedi Youngling

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    This is from the release on Starwars.com:

    "It was announced today that Benioff and Weiss, creators of the smash-hit, Emmy Award-winning television series Game of Thrones, will write and produce a new series of Star Wars films.

    These new films will be separate from both the episodic Skywalker saga and the recently-announced trilogy being developed by Rian Johnson, writer-director of Star Wars: The Last Jedi."

    1. The films announced yesterday are referred to as a "series", not a trilogy. Given they have gone out of their way to call RJ's a "trilogy", one can only assume this matters, and the series won't necessarily be a "trilogy". So this apparently isn't creating "two trilogies". Though, between this "series", and RJ's "trilogy", Disney surely has lots of options for Star Wars over the next decade. It seems as though they plan to move away from the single film anthology films (RO, Solo, maybe Kenobi), to the series and trilogy during the next decade.
    2. They explicitly say that the new series is separate from not only the Skywalker saga, but the recently announced trilogy RJ is doing.

    And some are responding to this by saying the RJ trilogy won't happen? Seems pretty explicit that Lucasfilm is saying both are going to happen.
     
  20. DarthTalonx

    DarthTalonx Jedi Knight star 3

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    Yes, although how that answers or relates to my point, I don't follow you. Either way George who wrote Star Wars left them with scripts and a plan. Which they didn't follow. Someone could buy out Ford. It doesn't mean that the new buyer invented the Ford T does it.

    The point is Star Wars had coherent, flowing, logical story telling. And I don't doubt that Lucas' story would have made sense and added a new 3 films, whilst linking to the old saga to form one complete saga. KK is just doing something weird with no plan. These films don't appear to have any plan. They are enjoyable yes, but not coherent.

    Lol you mean like Darth Talon's seduction of Cade?

    I think a lot of Star Wars stories could be told. Frankly Labrynth of Evil on screen would be cool. Characters like Aayla Secura, Master Shyrne (Rise of Darth Vader novel). Or even the Old Republic era.

    I don't think doing something just after Episode IX would be good. That would mean they wasted the sequels to set up extra films instead of actually doing the saga properly.

    I feel like a trilogy actually showing the Empire's point of view would be interesting.
     
  21. CEB

    CEB Force Ghost star 5

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    It’s a matter of record that Lucas didn’t leave a “script”, and I think anyone who is being reasonable and balanced about this stuff has to acknowledge that George Lucas isn’t universally regarded as highly as he is by you after the PT, and many would strongly disagree that he can be assumed to be a writer of coherent, flowing stories.
     
  22. ChildOfWinds

    ChildOfWinds Force Ghost star 6

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    @TheFastJedi , thank you for your post. Maybe the ones just announced will be Stand alone ‘s then, but with the same characters.
     
  23. DarthTalonx

    DarthTalonx Jedi Knight star 3

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    The PT dialogue could have been better. But ultimately he came up with Star Wars. And the OT/PT have arcs and flow together.

    I can't see why someone would criticise the PT, and not criticise the ST.
     
  24. CEB

    CEB Force Ghost star 5

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    They can be criticised for different things to different extents. The ST hasn’t had the troughs the PT had, but hasn’t quite had the peaks the PT had.
     
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  25. 11-4D

    11-4D Jedi Master star 4

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    B-but George's big twelve part Star Wars book that he's had written out since 70s!!