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Rick McCallum wrote the opening crawls?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by TCF-1138 , Jun 26, 2005.

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  1. Viceroy_Wagar

    Viceroy_Wagar Jedi Master star 1

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    http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/bts/production/f20050126/index.html

    http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/bts/production/f20050126/indexp2.html

    Rick M DID NOT write the crawls. In my opinion, they are all very well written, interesting, and differnt. I especially like the one for Episode III. Very original.
     
  2. MANDALORIAN

    MANDALORIAN Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I think the ROTS crawl was actually written by a six year old.

     
  3. Sanctuary_Moon

    Sanctuary_Moon Jedi Youngling star 3

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    If McCallum had written any of the opening crawls I think we'd know about it. I'm sure the censors would have something to say about that amount of profanity in a family film.:p

    Re: Episode 3's crawl, I'm still curious to know exactly who these "heroes" were on the Separatists' side. Grievous maybe?

    I remember reading the ROTS crawl online and just refusing to believe it could be real. Actually, the same could be said of a lot of what ended up in the movie.[face_mischief]
     
  4. jedi_master_ousley

    jedi_master_ousley Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I think the "heroes on both sides" line is part of the "point of view." From the Separatist point of view, they DO have heroes, and the heroes of the Republic are seen as villains.
     
  5. Sanctuary_Moon

    Sanctuary_Moon Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Ousley - but aren't we, as viewers, meant to be rooting for the heroes of the Republic? What do we care if the Separatists think Grievous, Gunray or Dooku are heroes? I know that in ROTS, the line between good and evil is supposed to be a fine one but this was a vague, throwaway line that does nothing for the opening of Ep 3.

    I won't even get into "War!"[face_plain]

    No matter whether Rick had a hand in it or not, I do feel that ROTS has by far the worst crawl of the Saga. And that is something I never thought I'd say after seeing "The taxation of trade routes to outlying star systems is in dispute..."I-)

     
  6. jedi_master_ousley

    jedi_master_ousley Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Not necessarily. Remember, in this film it's hard to tell who the "bad guy" is. Palpatine places a lot of focus on "point of view" - he uses it to twist Anakin's mind. I think that the crawl sets up the viewer for what he/she is going to see in the film. We think that Palpatine is a good guy, but he turns out to be the Sith Lord. We think the Republic is good, but it's actually going to support the destruction of the Jedi and turn into the Empire. Saying "there's heroes on both sides" muddies the water a bit from the get-go.

    edit(s) - markups and adding a sentence
     
  7. Sanctuary_Moon

    Sanctuary_Moon Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Hmm...not quite sure how well this sits with "the fiendish droid leader General Grievous" or Nute Gunray's multiple attempts to murder Padme. Not to mention the origins of the Death Star seen in AOTC, or the fact that the Separatists were led by a Sith Lord!

    My point is, Lucas has painted the Separatists as villains throughout the movies, and all of a sudden they are "heroes"? This crawl comes off as badly written to me. If it is meant to do what you suggest and muddy the waters, it might have helped if Lucas had introduced a bit of ambiguity earlier on and not been so clear that the Separatists were the bad guys in AOTC.
     
  8. Annina

    Annina Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I have no problem with the RotS crawl...I mean isn't the ANH crawl also kind of cheesy as well : EVIL GALACTIC EMPIRE!!! Yes we get it,the Empire is evil [face_mischief] And what's wrong with WAR!It's the clone wars and not everyone coming to see the film knows what the situation is in the beginning.Better to explain it right at the start.
    And it's also kind of funny... :D
     
  9. Darth-Stryphe

    Darth-Stryphe Former Mod and City Rep star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Not necessarily. Remember, in this film it's hard to tell who the "bad guy" is.

    The problem with this is that the opening crawl isn't for the character's benefit, it's for the audiences. However, at no point does the audience get a sense of heroism from the Seperatists. Lucas is consistant in painting them as evil in ROTS. In AOTC there was a part in the movie (early on) where they could have been viewed as OK, but by ROTS they are openly led by a Sith and someone who goes by "Grievous", attacking worlds, and kidnapping politicians. We don't see the political idealism from them anymore. They're pretty obviously pawns of evil.
     
  10. jedi_master_ousley

    jedi_master_ousley Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Point taken. ;)

    Personally, I see it as a nice addition to the ambiguity in the film, but I certainly see where you're coming from.
     
  11. Leonard_Shelby

    Leonard_Shelby Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    In any and all wars, there are "heroes on both sides". End of story.
     
  12. Lars_Muul

    Lars_Muul Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Sure, the Separatists are pawns of evil, but they aren't evil themselves. That's pretty evident in the Mustafar slaughter.



    Lord Sidious promised us peace
    /LM
     
  13. Mr_Burns

    Mr_Burns Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    If Rick McCallum wrote the opening crawls, there'd be far more references to things being "so bold" and "****ing awesome!"

    Duuude.
     
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