Amph On Earth, Everyone Can Hear You Scream: The Prometheus / Alien Discussion Thread (Romulus)

He's also having a hand in writing Bladerunner 2.

 

Guy Pearce's old man makeup was ****ing hilarious.

 

Agreed. Laughter is not the reaction they were shooting for.

 

Shut up, Mr. Koth! You were not brought upon this world to "get it".

 

it wasn't so much the old man makeup, it was the sucky old-man-performance that was the problem.

 

I love Guy Pearce, but in retrospect they probably should've just cast an actual older actor for the role. Max Von Sydow perhaps. Pearce reminded me of when Tim Conway would play The Old Man on the Carol Burnett Show. It took me out of the movie at a time when I should've been fully engaged.

Yeah, I noticed that when I was looking him up. In fairness to him, according to Wikipedia he co-wrote Green Lantern with two other writers. So while there's not much about the final script that I would personally say is very good, we also can't lay all the blame for it at his feet.

For Blade Runner 2 all I really need are awesome visuals and Vangelis and I'll be fine.

 

Why couldn't Lance Henrickson reprise his role for the older Weyland parts then?

 

I think largely to distance themselves from "Alien Vs Predator" and "Alien 3".

 

Yeah, I saw a little of that viral promotional stuff w/the younger Weyland and eventually learned of the original plan. But when the age gap is that big, I actually prefer using two actors. It just feels more authentic to me.

It's funny though, I recently watched Bad Grandpa and the old age make-up in that low budget comedy is light years ahead of Prometheus and I never once thought of "Grandpa" as a younger man in make-up.

 

.. agree with two points: the old man make-up was not good - and the "old man acting" was not good as well. I would have loved to have seen Max Von Sydow in that part, heck, even add a few more wrinkles onto Rutger Hauer!...would have tied Weyland and Tyrell... But boy, did they get the old man feet down...oh, I hope that was not a "foot stand-in."

 

Would Ian Holm regard any interest for returning to the series?

 

Well, Charles Weyland was dead by the end of "Alien Vs Predator" and Bishop Weyland was much further down in the timeline with "Alien 3". So Peter Weyland looking like Charles Weyland would be reasonable, but I think Scott wanted to avoid that all together.

 

The AvP movies aren't cannon. Fortunately.

 

Yeah, but Aliens and Alien 3 are.

 

Probably not.

 

True, but stuff revealed in "Prometheus" suggests that the xenomorph as we know it wasn't in existence until the end of the film. To make it work, you'd have to conclude that the Yautja figured out long ago how to make a xenomoprh and stole the original egg DNA from the Mala'kak and then went through the same process in "Prometheus", in order to get the xenomorphs that we know.

 

You guys keep talking like they filmed more movies after Alien 3.

 

AVP is totally as bad as people make it out to be, what in the hell are you talking about? It's ludicrous.

If they had just taken the insanely good original mini-series storyline and done that it would have eliminated all of the insanity and made it awesome. That they bastardized it into something taking place on Earth, making it nonsensical, should have been a non-starter...