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ROTJ ending music - "Yub Nub" or "Victory Celebration"?

Discussion in 'Star Wars And Film Music' started by Darth Philosophical, Nov 19, 2015.

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Which ending score do you prefer?

  1. Yub Nub (1983 - 1993 OST version)

    9.9%
  2. Yub Nub (1983 film version)

    23.6%
  3. Victory Celebration (1997 SE)

    66.5%
  1. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Victory Celebration + Shaw Ghost is my favorite ending. It truly feels like everyone's happy and celebrating their victory at long last.
     
  2. GregMcP

    GregMcP Force Ghost star 5

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    Just finished watching Jedi with my younger daughter and her friend. Neither had seen it before.
    My daughter called the Ewoks "Yub Yubs" until I told her their real names. (BTW, the Ewoks got full approval by them both)

    Anyway, the New Ending makes no sense at all if you haven't seen the prequels. Who is that ghost guy?
    We Youtubed up the original Yub Nub ending, and it was alot more fun, and it has the Real Dead Darth in it.
     
  3. Infinite Cactus

    Infinite Cactus Jedi Padawan star 1

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    I prefer Victory Celebration from a composition standpoint.
     
  4. PEW PEW

    PEW PEW Jedi Knight

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    Sad to see Yub Nub not getting too much love in the poll! It will always be my favourite. It's much better suited to the Stormtrooper helmet drums too.
     
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  5. Prequel_Rubbish

    Prequel_Rubbish Jedi Knight star 3

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    TFN will always skew more towards prequel/saga/SE fans.
     
  6. Cabbage Knight

    Cabbage Knight Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Maybe they could've included both tracks somehow, one fading into the other in some manner? You'd hear yub nub at the beginning of the ending sequence, then after we see the Force ghosts it transitions into the Victory Celebration and starts showing the rest of the galaxy. Something like that.
     
  7. DarthBane93

    DarthBane93 Force Ghost star 4

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    Yub Nub all the way.
     
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  8. Wildbillalways

    Wildbillalways Jedi Youngling

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    These are high quality versions of the original trilogy
     
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  9. Bobatron

    Bobatron Jedi Master star 4

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    This is why no one will officially put out a remastered Blu-Ray quality trilogy. People are too divided.
    For me, there is no ending to Return of the Jedi without "Yub Nub," but as a standalone song, I like to hear the Ewok version. I guess you just had to be there, and the kind of kid who had parents searching all over the place for the lunchbox with Wicket and R2-D2 on it, to understand.
     
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  10. themoth

    themoth Force Ghost star 5

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    This quote from George Lucas captures the spirit of Victory Celebration perfectly:

    "The whole point of the film, the whole emotion that I am trying to get at the end of this film, is for you to be real uplifted, emotionally and spiritually, and feel absolutely good about life. That is the greatest thing that we could possibly do."
     
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  11. CT-867-5309

    CT-867-5309 Chosen One star 7

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    There are times I find Victory Celebration a bit somber and droning. Yub Nub seems louder, more booming, more energetic, and always joyful and celebratory.

    Yub Nub fits the actual scene, it's tempo. Luke actually walks into the scene in rhythm with Yub Nub, Lando claps along, that Ewok is bouncing in beat. The characters look like they're dancing to the song. I'm not sure if they actually played the song during the filming of the scene (I doubt it), but I can believe they did when I watch it.

    Yub Nub seems like a song you could actually play at a party, at a celebration. Victory Celebration doesn't. You can't dance to Victory Celebration. You can't even sing along, because it doesn't really have lyrics. At most you can kinda just sway back and forth and drone along with it.
     
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  12. Dandelo

    Dandelo SW and Film Music Interview Host star 10 VIP - Game Host

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    usually I'm a sucker for tradition. But from my point of view Victory Celebration is clearly superior.
     
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  13. Darth Cocytus

    Darth Cocytus Jedi Master star 4

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    Yub Nub's alright for a song and it is nice to listen, but Victory Celebration added real epicness to the ending of the Original Saga Arc.
     
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  14. Master_Rebado

    Master_Rebado Chosen One star 6

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    Yub Nub (1983 film version)
     
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  15. srg

    srg Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Victory Celebration for sure. It's just a better piece of music.
     
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  16. Obironsolo

    Obironsolo Force Ghost star 4

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    Ironically, when George decided to replace Yub Nub with the Victory Celebration, it was because ROTJ was now going to be the official ending of the saga, as he had no plans to do Episode VII or beyond. So at that point, it made sense to change the tone to one that recognized the tragedy of the prequels and a new, more melancholy, thoughtful ending that encapsulated Star Wars as a whole. That worked when ROTJ was the end.

    But now it's not anymore. And I'd prefer they went back to Yub Nub, which is now more appropriate given the fact that the Endor victory was not really the end.
     
  17. Huttese 101

    Huttese 101 Sam Witwer Enthusiast star 7

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    Victory Celebration. Yub Nub just doesn't do the ending of RotJ justice.
     
  18. Darth Formidious

    Darth Formidious Jedi Master star 4

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    I regret voting Yub Nub, it just doesn't carry the upbeat vibe of Victory Celebration. I prefer Victory Celebration; without the Hayden ghost, of course.
     
  19. PymParticles

    PymParticles Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I voted Yub Nub some time ago; I stand by that choice.
     
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  20. theMaestro

    theMaestro Jedi Master star 3

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    I voted Victory Celebration and still feel that way. However, I've come to appreciate Yub Nub more by thinking of it in the same manner as Lapti Nek: an in-universe song being played by the characters, rather than a piece of the score. Then, around the time that Leia pulls Luke back to the party (since he was looking at the Force ghosts), the out-of-universe score kicks in and it's pretty good.

    So I still prefer Victory Celebration but I definitely enjoy Yub Nub more than I used to.
     
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  21. Obironsolo

    Obironsolo Force Ghost star 4

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    Not to break the rules of this debate, but ideally they could begin with Yub Nub, then transition into the Victory Celebration. Use both.
     
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  22. Martoto77

    Martoto77 Jedi Master star 5

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    Sorry to be so negative but Victory Celebration is probably the worst piece I've heard composed by John Williams.

    It sounds like some earnest new age relaxation tape music, or one of those pan pipe moods CDs that people sell out of suitcase in the high street.

    I find it nauseating and totally detached from the scene it's accompanying, ironically. Like it's music borrowed from a different movie.
     
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  23. PaulWrightyThen

    PaulWrightyThen Jedi Knight star 2

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    Yub Nub.

    Just listened to both back to back. VC sounds like a generic pan pipe moods album that you'd get on one of those shopping channels and all the names scroll up the screen with the name of the track playing in yellow.

    Its not bad, its just, there. Yub Nub sounds like a party. An Ewok party. Albeit with a choir.

    Still betterer.
     
  24. Jorus C'Baoth 2882

    Jorus C'Baoth 2882 Jedi Knight star 1

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    Honestly, I can't really say which one is better. On one hand, Yub Nub seems like more natural given the circumstances and environment on Endor, yet VC seems more fitting to the overall emotion of the film. But if I was forced to choose, I would have to say that VC it is the better of the two songs.
     
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  25. Eternal_Jedi

    Eternal_Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    I grew up on the OT and I was 23 when the Special Editions were released. On the whole, I dislike most of the changes made in the SEs (not enough to make me seek out alternate versions to the Blu-Rays mind you).

    The Victory Celebration and extended scenes showing celebrations across the galaxy make for a much better ending to ROTJ than original, in my opinion. Particularly in the context of it being the conclusion of the six-episode saga (as it was until recently, of course).
     
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