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***RVD2: RYAN VS DORKMAN II -- RELEASE THREAD (SPOILERS!)***

Discussion in 'Fan Films, Fan Audio & SciFi 3D' started by DorkmanScott, Mar 1, 2007.

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  1. Lightsaber_Monster

    Lightsaber_Monster Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I have not fully read this thread though, but was RVD2 shot using AVCHD or HDV?
     
  2. Ryan_W

    Ryan_W VIP star 4 VIP

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    Panasonic HVX200, so DVCPRO HD.
     
  3. Lightsaber_Monster

    Lightsaber_Monster Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Ive read on Wiki that DVCPRO can give up to 3 times the biterate of HDV is this true?, on another note, why did you choose to shoot RVD2 on DVCPRO rather than AVCHD or HDV?
     
  4. Ryan_W

    Ryan_W VIP star 4 VIP

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    Because DVCPRO is better.
    Than HDV, anyway. I'm not sure what AVCHD is.

    Additionally, the HVX200 image is about the best bang for the under 10,000 buck (until next year).
     
  5. -Spiff-

    -Spiff- Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The HVX200 is probably the most versatile prosumer SD camcorder ever made. Currently the performance of the HVX200 may be exceeded by a number of Sony XDCAM camcorders, using cheaper flash than P2, and high bitrate (higher than HDV anyway) long-GOP codecs, recording at full 1920x1080p.

    Scarlet should indeed beat everything on the market next year.

    AVC-HD is a low bit-rate, high efficiency codec for consumer HD camcorders. The AVC-HD codec can be put to DVD-R, Flash and Hard Disk. In theory, the spec could exceed HDV quality, though in implementation this is debatable. Major editing platforms (i.e., Premiere and FCP) do not yet support AVC-HD, though I think Vegas does.

    -Spiff
     
  6. VaporTrail

    VaporTrail Jedi Master star 6

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    If it is in Vegas, it's not listed as one of the default project templates. NTSC, PAL, HDV are all present, but all I could find was a help file on how to export to AVC for a PSP. I don't think it even said AVC-HD, actually.
    DVCPRO is nowhere to be found. I suppose this doesn't mean it won't read the formats, but it looks like they're not something the program is expecting to come across.

    -Vaportrail
     
  7. -Spiff-

    -Spiff- Jedi Padawan star 4

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    DVCPRO is primarily supported by FCP on the Mac. You can get DVCPRO-HD support in Premiere through Cineform. I'm actually surprised Cineform hasn't supported AVC-HD yet, but I recall reading that they had trouble getting a license for a codec.

    -Spiff
     
  8. NateCaauwe

    NateCaauwe Jedi Master star 4

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    FCP has had support for AVCHD for at least nine months, maybe over a year. I'm not sure if it was there since FCP 6 was released or if they added it when iMovie 08 came out with it late last summer.
     
  9. JoeyH

    JoeyH Jedi Youngling star 3

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    This may be only loosely related to the Ryan vs. Dorkman series, but Weezer posted a music video on youtube for their new single (Pork and Beans) and it appears that it's you two fighting with sabers near the end. In fact, the whole thing is chock full of internet fads.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muP9eH2p2PI

    Is that really you two? I know they corralled a bunch of other internet stars into reprising their roles.
     
  10. Rhys

    Rhys Jedi Master star 4

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    I'd say so, the hint being in Ryan also having adopted this song on his mySpace profile i noticed today while engaging in my yearly mySpace update.
     
  11. Ryan_W

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    16x9 footage cropped to 4x3 = effectively omitting Mike from the video...


    Yes indeed it's really us. And we hung out with pretty much everybody in the video.
     
  12. Rhys

    Rhys Jedi Master star 4

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    Yeh, was wondering for a moment if it wasn't actual RvD2 footage that some poor soul had to rotoscope or something.
     
  13. PixelMagic

    PixelMagic Jedi Master star 5

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    Did you or Mike do the lightsaber effects in the video? They look spot on.
     
  14. VaporTrail

    VaporTrail Jedi Master star 6

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    Y'know, I think want a little more lightsaber.
    [image=http://www.battleagainstbald.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/08/07/christopher_walken.jpg]


    So, what's the Numa Numa guy like?

    -Vaportrail
     
  15. DorkmanScott

    DorkmanScott Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I did the sabers, he did the drumsticks. Which they changed the look of from what we were doing with them.
     
  16. Ryan_W

    Ryan_W VIP star 4 VIP

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    Yes, we talked to the VFX supervisor and the director on set, explaining that we'd be happy to do them pro bono, and quickly. Mike did some follow-up emailing and we got the shots. We did more than was used in the video, but at least the sabers don't look like crap.
     
  17. GiantGnomeDigital

    GiantGnomeDigital Jedi Youngling

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    That's incredible! I'm so glad you guys decided to do that. I was hoping to see you fellas and inevitably, there you guys were. Again, amazing! Thanks for deciding to do that, Weezer is one of my favorite bands.
     
  18. VaporTrail

    VaporTrail Jedi Master star 6

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    This begs for a comparison image.
     
  19. SilentBat

    SilentBat Jedi Knight star 4

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    Oh very sweet :)
     
  20. JoeyH

    JoeyH Jedi Youngling star 3

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    What he said. I don't see much difference compared to how they would normally look (aside from their length).
     
  21. Lord_Charisma

    Lord_Charisma Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Excellent stuff!
     
  22. VaporTrail

    VaporTrail Jedi Master star 6

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    It looks to me like there's more color in the motion blur, rather than a solid white core fanning out. I can't freeze-frame it, so I don't really know how to describe it other than that.

    -Vaportrail
     
  23. HollywoodVFX

    HollywoodVFX Jedi Youngling

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    Right, they just didn't do the drumsticks fully opaque like a saber. Not necessarily a bad call in this instance.
     
  24. SilentBat

    SilentBat Jedi Knight star 4

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    Why? Why would anyone do that?
     
  25. VaporTrail

    VaporTrail Jedi Master star 6

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    That's just what we've been asking the home video industry for years.

    -Vaportrail
     
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