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Lit Sam Witwer "Karen Traviss, She Didn't Get Everything Right"

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Robimus, Jan 27, 2013.

  1. GGrievous

    GGrievous Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Made me realize that the TCW disease contiunes to spread.
     
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  2. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 9

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    There is this comment:

    If Lucas "went on record" there might be a verifiable source somewhere to confirm it.
     
  3. Kyris Cavisek

    Kyris Cavisek Jedi Knight star 4

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    How does this have anything to do with Clone Wars? Two Lightsabers?
     
  4. GGrievous

    GGrievous Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    You should take a look at the background. ;)
     
  5. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 9

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    Is the droid one from the old Droids cartoons?
     
  6. Kyris Cavisek

    Kyris Cavisek Jedi Knight star 4

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    I don't see it. A Droid?
     
  7. GGrievous

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  8. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    No. What I'm saying is she should have done the research. I didn't realize that was so confusing. lol
     
  9. Kyris Cavisek

    Kyris Cavisek Jedi Knight star 4

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  10. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 9

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    Even if she had- would it have changed anything? Ryan Kaufman (apparently) told her the Jedi didn't have much problem using the clones, and confirmed they were a slave army- and that's what sparked the enthusiasm about writing the whole Republic commando series.
     
  11. Kyris Cavisek

    Kyris Cavisek Jedi Knight star 4

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    I want Quinlan Vos to go to Mandalore and kill Kal Skrita. Traviss had such hatred of Vos due to his dislike of Clones. LOLZ
     
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  12. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Nope, it wouldn't, but I could care less since I haven't got around to reading that series. I got the highlights though.
     
  13. Robimus

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    I'm curious, what source is that from?

    Edit: Nevermind, I see it now.

    Interesting but irrelevent to the story Karen was telling.
     
  14. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 9

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    STAR WARS: OFFICIAL POSTER MONTHLY #4
    Published January 1978 by Galaxy Publications. Text writers Jon Trux, John May, Anthony Fredrickson.
     
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  15. Robimus

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    On one hand it further legitimizes Karen's take on the clones.

    On the other Owen Lars was Obi-Wan's brother back then. :p
     
  16. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 9

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    We have it established that the Empire treats clones as slaves, with no rights- raising the possibility that this is legacy from the Republic.

    It wasn't till the RoTJ novel that we see Obi-Wan claim that Owen is his brother.
     
  17. CooperTFN

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    She never claimed she was the first person to have that thought, so I'm not sure what's telling you she didn't "do the research", which is a pretty broad concept to begin with. She thought it was a compelling angle, she ran with it. End of story.
     
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  18. Robimus

    Robimus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    That changed very quickly in the EU.
     
  19. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 9

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    In Star Wars on Trial, she does say:

    "I don't read novels, not even if I'm paid to, and anyway the Republic Commando world was brand new, so the continuity would be created largely by me, working alongside the game team. I plunged in with all the confidence of the joyously ignorant"
     
  20. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    I'm aware about what she did or didn't claim. End of story. ;)
     
  21. Robimus

    Robimus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Maybe you could tell the rest of us?

    But we also know she used the Holocron, as well as having helpers the like of patchworkz for various aspects of her books. Certainly she made errors, and a few intentional changes along the way - but she did try to use continuity as well all, over the place.
     
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  22. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 9

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    Just because some Jedi treat them better, doesn't mean they have much in the way of legal protections.
     
  23. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    I meant as far as what she has said on record bud.
     
  24. Kyris Cavisek

    Kyris Cavisek Jedi Knight star 4

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    Her first book was terrible it really wasn't. A commando team sent to rescue a padawan. That is brilliant, but when it became a soap opera is when it became terrible. If they stuck to the plot like X Wing did, it would have been far better. I would have preferred the two squads stay separate and get books about each 4 man squad to develop the characters better then ended the series with a combination book.
     
  25. CooperTFN

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    Which brings us back to my having no clue what point you were trying to make in the first place. I mean, given this:

    ...you're likely correct about the extent to which she investigated the history of clones in the franchise. But I'm still not clear what you think any of us are supposed to take from that.