See, and even though I can see your argument (after spelling it out more clearly), I still have issues with it...I guess part of it is lumping Visa'd internationals in with illegals. They are two very distinct groups. And after working in the Admission office of my alma mater for many years, I understand the implication of eliminating international student visas. My University had approximately 15% of our student body as international students. Intl's do not get ANY federal or state subsidies of their education, they have to pay full tuition price (even more than full tuition at a state school). They provide an enormous benefit both to the endowment/coffers of the universities of this country, and also the social education of the student population. During my time in college I became friends with students from Singapore, Thailand, India, Malaysia, China, Russia, Philippines, Japan, Norway, UK, Spain, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Israel, etc. If we curtailed the admission of international students then the education of our college students would be hurt in a very qualitative manner.