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Amph Sands of Arrakis: The Works of Frank Herbert

Discussion in 'Archive: SF&F: Books and Comics' started by JediTrilobite, Jan 3, 2006.

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  1. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    ::pokes head in::

    Hey, guys. Not sure how many of you ever make it over to the Roleplaying Forum, but a couple of us are over there trying to plan a large scale Dune RPG. We could always use more minds!

    ::absconds::
     
  2. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    *bump*

    I found these videos on YouTube. They should be watched in order. They're rather pointed, though weird at first. Interesting.

    First
    Second
    Third

    **drumroll**

    The last.
     
  3. Qui-Gon_Reborn

    Qui-Gon_Reborn Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I actually prefer Herbert's stand-alone works to the Dune series. The Santaroga Barrier's the best, I think.
     
  4. MrZAP

    MrZAP Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I have to say that I've never read past the first book, but I love it dearly.

    Just my two cents: If a decent Dune movie was ever to be made, I want John Rhys-Davies to play Baron Harkonnen. That's all I ask for.
     
  5. NYCitygurl

    NYCitygurl Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Since you loved the first one,, do you plan to read more?
     
  6. MrZAP

    MrZAP Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I do. I just have a huge collection of books already that I haven't started reading. A lot of Asimov and King Arthur books come to mind, s. So I WILL get to them eventually. It's just a matter of finishing all the books I already have.:p
     
  7. NYCitygurl

    NYCitygurl Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Ah, gotcha :)
     
  8. Salty

    Salty Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I'm a huge Dune fan. To me the Dune Chronicles (1-6) is the second best series of books ever published (Lord of the Rings being first).

    Out of the first six, God Emperor is my favorite. That book along with the original should be required reading in political and philosophical theory classes. The themes in those books are just as relevant now as they were the day they were published.
     
  9. JEDI-SOLO

    JEDI-SOLO Force Ghost star 6

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    I am all about Heretics of Dune. Miles Teg is the man.
     
  10. Salty

    Salty Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Miles Teg is a killer character. I love the fact he's essentially another Kwisatz Haderach. His mother was BG and his innate talents were opened up by an Ixian T-probe. It's pretty funny when they bring him back and use BG sexual tactics to bring back his memories. His response to the BG doing that to him was priceless when he regained his former life memories.
     
  11. Evil Incarnate

    Evil Incarnate Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I finished the ones by Frank Herbert, then tried to read the ones by Brian/Anderson. They just didn't hit the spot like Frank's did. :(

    Evil.
     
  12. Salty

    Salty Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    You're not alone in that sentiment. Frank was the master and it's too bad he wasn't able to write more, especially Dune 7.
     
  13. Lurking_Around

    Lurking_Around Jedi Knight star 6

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    So, fans of Dune/Frank Herbert, anyone saw 'Avatar' yet?

    Foreigner learns the ways of religous natives on resource rich planet, falls in love with chief's daughter, masters the ways of riding native animal, becomes messianic leader, unites the clans and leads battle against military/capitalist power who want the planet's resource...

    Familiar?

    [face_thinking]

    Bonus: the air vehicle looked like a damn good design for ornithopter (sp?). Ah, for a Dune movie designed by WETA...

    =P~
     
  14. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    I've seen it.
     
  15. Salty

    Salty Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Not surprising Cameron would reference Dune.
     
  16. Asharak

    Asharak Jedi Master star 4

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    Anybody else think "Chapterhouse Dune" worked really well as the end of the series? Duncan finally free, Bene Gesserit and Honored Matres become one, two huge battles at the end etc..

    Sure there was a powerful force out there of evolved Face Dancers, but to me they didn?t seam like they were an "Evil Dark Lord" type of threat. To me it seamed like another way of showing how the human race was no longer something that could be contained or controlled.
     
  17. Salty

    Salty Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I think Chapterhouse would've worked well had we not had the old couple at the very end.
     
  18. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Yeah. It's a really, really, really familiar trope. Dune wasn't the first nor the last.
     
  19. Salty

    Salty Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    It's one of the best though.
     
  20. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Absolutely, but Avatar[//i] is hackneyed without any connection to Dune whatsoever.
     
  21. Salty

    Salty Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I agree. Personally I think Avatar is overrated.
     
  22. Lord Tuvitor

    Lord Tuvitor Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yeah, I said it when I saw it--I liked Avatar better when it was Dune. :p

    It was great eye candy, and a great technology demo--but the story has already been told many times before, and many times better.

    As for the KJA/BH books, I'm pretending they don't exist. I read them, mostly... I think I lost interest a few chapters into Sandworms. It would have been fine for fan fiction or whatever. I never really thought about it before, but the end of Chapterhouse does leave a pretty open-ended world and is a good place to stop.

    Frank Herbert was brilliant. I wish he was still with us. :(
     
  23. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    Not really. Those aircraft are basically updated helicopters. I want a true thopter with wings like flap like a bird or a dragonfly.
     
  24. Rogue...Jedi

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    Huh, I'm surprised I didn't up this thread when I read Dune a few months ago (or whenever it was exactly).

    For some reason, I really didn't care for the last two Dune books by Frank Herbert, but the first four were pretty good. Could never get into the characters in the last two, though.

    I've been reading some of the Brian Herbert/KJA additions, though, and have been pleasantly surprised so far. Most of what I'd heard was that they were a cut or three below the originals, and I don't have a high opinion of KJA to start with. Yet the ones I've read (Paul of Dune and the three Dune: House books) have been quite good. I've got Winds of Dune on my shelf now too, and I'll read it sometime in October, probably.
     
  25. JEDI-SOLO

    JEDI-SOLO Force Ghost star 6

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    You still going to pick the last two up on discount Hunters/Sandworms that actually finish what Frank had outlined to be Dune 7 to wrap up the saga?
     
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