Satanism

Discussion in 'Archive: The Senate Floor' started by Cobranaconda, May 5, 2004.

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  1. Ender Sai Chosen One

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    Brooks; firstly, if you didn't take yourself so seriously you might actually enjoy life. Radical concept I know, but try it! :)

    Secondly, I find satanism of no appeal whatsoever, but I do see you earnest trying to convince everyone you're right and covert them, hence the innocent little jibe. That you took the time to write a thesis in to something clearly marked as a harmless joke indicates point 1 above it close to the mark.

    E_S
  2. SheLeftMeForAWookiee Jedi Knight

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    Satanists just want to stand out and get lots of attention, regardless of what kind of attention it is.

    I think the whole thing is silly.
  3. darthtuttle Force Ghost

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    I just don't see why anyone would want to worship evil. If anyone could tell me, go ahead.

    Why can't we show him mercy? According to the Bible he will be thrown into the lake of fire. As for Satanists, I believe thay still have a chance. I know a Christian who used to worship Satan.
  4. Fire_Ice_Death Chosen One

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    From what I understand of satanism, it's not exactly worship of satan.
  5. mikadojedi Jedi Master

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    Satanists just want to stand out and get lots of attention, regardless of what kind of attention it is.


    I am a Christian and, believe me when I say, there are plenty of Christians who also crave attention. Standing on corners and shouting at the top of thier lungs.
  6. Fire_Ice_Death Chosen One

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    Yes, being a Christian you truly understand the mind of a satanist.
  7. darthtuttle Force Ghost

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    So what do Satanists do?
  8. Fire_Ice_Death Chosen One

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    I was told by my friend that they look to themselves or worship themselves.
  9. Amon_Amarth Force Ghost

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    What's so attracting to you about paganism?

    Paganism, as a unique name for ancient religions, is pretty interesting. It is good to see that people have not forgotten their legacy, that christianity didn't destroy all remains of past cultures, that what is considered history is still cherished.


    Satnism is not paganism, however. It has its roots in christianity. It is not the total opposite of it, but it defies it.


    What do satanists do?

    As far as I know, they enjoy in life, but again, they have certain limitations limitations, like the 11 Rules of Earth and 9 sins.
  10. That_Jedi_Guy Jedi Master

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    Satanism is a thought structure that doesnt believe in God and also believes things that the church considers sins (ie. Masterbation, pornography, glutony...) are human impulses and shouldnt be shunned but should rather be embraced.
    The name of Satanism as a religion has been throw around alot where some people actually worship satan but the one I'm refering to doesnt believe in God, Satan, angels etc.
    it was started by a man named Anton Levey and it's most prominent memeber today is Marilyn Manson (who's actually an extremely intellegent individual and i suggest reading his auto-biography)
  11. Fingolfin_Noldor Jedi Master

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    It is dangerous to give in to animalistic impulses. Giving in to them will lead to incredible destructive forces which are incredibly hard to control. In Africa alone, tribal warfare has reach such genocidal heights that it is incredibly hard to control them. I'm entirely sure what Satanism entails, but I have heard of quite a bit of things from priests who have dealt with them. Seems they go into an orgy desecrating a lot of religious items, and... I have no idea what the atmosphere feels nor do I intend to try to imagine it. Perhaps this is another version of satanism. I don't know.
  12. son_of_the_tear Force Ghost

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    Chiming in here.

    Yeah, the name Satanism is highly misleading, as it does not worship evil or Lucifer... but as has been pointed out, it is a thought process, a worship of one self to be exact. The philosphy is too look inward and yeah, it is a rejection of many of the things the church considers a sin, such as masturbation, sex without marriage, etc, etc.

    By impulse, don't think it means commit an act of violence or murder. It just means, natural impulses, such as the search for pleasure, such as pleasure of the flesh.

    It is not... the worship of Satan or Evil at all.

    That is something else entirely.

    And as was also said, it is not paganism.

    Paganism is something else is more of a broad term to descrive ancient religions. I had a friend who was a pagan. His religion, forgot the name, was celtic in origin. Wasn't Wicca... the name escapes me right now.
  13. Fingolfin_Noldor Jedi Master

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    In the past, Paganism and Satanism were indivisible terms. But.. I believe there are different varieties of Satanism, aside from the one you mentioned. There are probably people who worship the devil, or do some "sacrilegious" acts to Christian items etc. There is little evidence of course to support this. Likely this is an underground thing.
  14. son_of_the_tear Force Ghost

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    In what past though?

    Paganism has been around long before Satanism and people who would group together Satanism with Paganism just had no idea what they were talking about, as Satanism isn't one of the ancient religions at all.
  15. Fingolfin_Noldor Jedi Master

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    The old Church labelled paganism as acts of the devil. True, paganism is far older but that was what it was called during the medieval days.
  16. son_of_the_tear Force Ghost

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    Exactly.

    And that's why that doesn't count.

    Many Christians still consider Paganism such.

    So we can not equate them together just because Christians say so, especially since Christianity is not the only religion nor the authority.
  17. HaydenSeek Jedi Knight

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    Satanism!!!

    It could be worse, they could be a Scientologist.
  18. cal_silverstar Jedi Master

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    ?Official? Satanism is not the worshipping the devil, listening to heavy metal, or playing Dungeons and Dragons. They follow the teachings of Anton La Vey, founder of the Church of Satan. Their main principle is not to worship Satan, but to be like him. They hate all forms of organized religion (I imagine they hate Christianity the most) and they follow a basic doctrine of ?do whatever you like, as long as you don?t hurt or infringe on the rights of others.? In its simplest terms, they?re kind of like libertarians with an anti-religion bent. They differentiate themselves from actual devil worshipping cults that sacrifice chickens and what-not. I met one before and he seemed harmless, just a little condescending though. Google Satanism, and you?ll see their official website that explains their philosophy.
  19. JediKnightOB1 Force Ghost

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    Don't forget that Satanists all pray at the same time. I believe it is Wednesday at 10 am.
  20. cal_silverstar Jedi Master

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    What's the significance of Wed at 10am?
  21. JediKnightOB1 Force Ghost

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    It is the middle of the week and most likely the best time Satanists can agree on praying at the same time.
  22. missydawg319 Jedi Knight

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    I am a Roman Catholic. I might be making a sterotype but for the satantist who I had the pleasure to meet were very interesting. They were very nice people and ok friends but they had serious issues. Must of the ones I knew were rejected from the church for their beliefs and this appeared to be the only route for them; however, in transferring to this route they became evil and did things that are frowned upon. So I think anyone who chooses this as a religon is hiding something no matter what anyone says!!!
  23. son_of_the_tear Force Ghost

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    So anyone who doesn't choose Christianity is hiding something?

    Yes, you are right. You are generalizing.

    Not everyone accepts the church's teachings and that's perfectly fine.

    And not everyone is a Christian and not everyone that is a Satanist was a Christian.

    Like was said, it's not a belief in the typical sense of the word. It is a belief, but in the worship of one's self. Not satan or G-d.
  24. cal_silverstar Jedi Master

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    Must of the ones I knew were rejected from the church for their beliefs and this appeared to be the only route for them; however, in transferring to this route they became evil and did things that are frowned upon.

    What exactly did they do that you consider to be so..."evil"? *pinky to side of mouth*
  25. DARTHJOSEPH Jedi Master

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    If it's hard to discuss the topic in a mature manner, please hold off from posting
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