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Clone Wars Savage Opress

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV' started by Fat_Rancor_Keeper, Aug 15, 2010.

  1. The Shadow Emperor

    The Shadow Emperor Jedi Master star 4

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    It's okay, I think I'll be able to live without it.
     
  2. KenobiSkywalker

    KenobiSkywalker Jedi Master star 4

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    I could give it a shot. :p
     
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  3. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Savage is still pretty much a lacky bulldozer in this arc. He's like an attack dog that needs a master. He has been used better in the last two episodes.
     
  4. ImNotAStarWarsFanboy

    ImNotAStarWarsFanboy Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I think after this arc, Savage will become a recurring character as a Force Ghost. He'll still follow Maul around and they'll spend the rest of their days scaring children for a living.
     
  5. Sitara

    Sitara Jedi Master star 3

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    Or...Maul will be destroyed but at the moment of death transfer his essence/soul/midichlorins into the body of Savage, whose body will morph into the body of Maul (cuz face it, Maul is far better looking)

    Then Maul will start using the dbl bladed saber and cit a swathe of gore throughout the entire galaxy.
     
  6. ImNotAStarWarsFanboy

    ImNotAStarWarsFanboy Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    But then it's not Randy.
     
  7. EECHUUTA

    EECHUUTA Jedi Master star 4

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    Well then it will be called Mandy. [face_not_talking]
     
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  8. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    THIS.

    + Ghost Battle Royale [hl=black](with lots of canon-cheese)[/hl] on Endor.;)
     
  9. ImNotAStarWarsFanboy

    ImNotAStarWarsFanboy Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Caught Ventress 'mirin:

    [​IMG]

    Will the Dark Side affect my gains?

    Do you even lift Maul?
     
  10. DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR

    DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I'm surprised his size hasn't diminished back to his normal state by now. I always thought it was short span magic (like the invisibility concoction) that would eventually unravel, and the whole idea was to give Savage Opress the strength which would allow him to help Ventress when they were ready to challenge Dooku. I never thought he would be looking like this, still.
     
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  11. ImNotAStarWarsFanboy

    ImNotAStarWarsFanboy Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    It's until he dies.
     
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  12. DavidIX

    DavidIX Jedi Knight star 1

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    He hasn't diminished in size because the spell she casted on Savage was not to give him power, more so it was to unlock or awaken the power from within.

    When Savage first appears in front of Talzin she touches his chest and says " this one is strong" IMO hinting at inner strength, Then she goes on to say several other things: "he has such hate the shear power of it", " look at the strenght in him, the power " all of which I believe are gestures of not only his physical strength but also his strength with the force. Dooku makes a reference about Savages hate and that, that is where he draws his strength from. Which was also hinted at before by Talzin as I mentioned above.

    Even Ventress makes reference to his power- " a gift from the galaxy" or something along those lines. Then after his transformation Dooku is so impressed with Savage, he even gives light to a future plot to destroy lord Sidious himself with the aid of Savage.

    If it was a simple enchantment of temporary power then in no way does Dooku sense that inmense power. And if that was the case why did she not do the same to Ventress and later with Maul. Savage didn't even show the capabilities of being force sensitive and yet after the transformation he clearly has huge potential in that area. So either Savage was gifted the ability to be force sensitive by this spell or he already had it but hadn't unlocked it or awakened it.

    That's my interpretation of it anyways.
     
  13. SithStarSlayer

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    + He has the rawest sounding saber swing in the galaxy...
     
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  14. Seerow

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    I like this interpretation. Now I figured that Savage was already powerfully force sensitive to some degree which allowed him to do much better in Ventress's tests. He simply was never trained. Savage, a night brother was perhaps raised in hate and violence. Talzin's spell basically augments Savage's connection to the darkside and strengthens it by removing any of his more positive emotions like love for his brother (which fueled further hate) creating this 'monster' of the darkside. Its really more a side effect for the darkside of the Force that beefs him up into the hulking dude he is as the end of "Monster",

    Its easy to see why Dooku was impressed with him. Savage's connection with the force seems really animistic. He goes for a brutal sloppy force choke and a toss like a male lion rams four inch canines and nearly 800 pounds of jaw pressure into a hyena's gut. There is no finesse or refinement. He's just brutal and raw.

    I also figure there is another part to the spell which keeps Savage controllable so he always follows someones lead like Talzin's or Maul's. He is getting a little smarter as of this last episode.
     
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  15. DavidIX

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    Its easy to see why Dooku was impressed with him. Savage's connection with the force seems really animistic. He goes for a brutal sloppy force choke and a toss like a male lion rams four inch canines and nearly 800 pounds of jaw pressure into a hyena's gut. There is no finesse or refinement. He's just brutal and raw.

    I also figure there is another part to the spell which keeps Savage controllable so he always follows someones lead like Talzin's or Maul's. He is getting a little smarter as of this last episode.



    That was a great analogy.

    I agree with the bold to a degree. Here's another angle of interpretation:

    Remember he betrayed Ventress and he was quick to blame Talzin when he couldn't find Maul.

    I think more so than a spell bounding him to follow someones lead. I think Savage follows Maul because subconsciously Maul replaces Ferrell as the last of his blood brothers. You see how he acted when he saw the condition Maul was in, he looked concerned and frustrated. I also believe that Savage knows his place and respects Mauls lead after his last out break of defiance towards Maul.
     
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  16. Seerow

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    Savage seemed like the older brother and took a guardian role to Ferrell while Maul seems to be the elder. How much they care about each other seems debatable to me. That may not necessarily be true but that seems to be the roles. Maul got frustrated with Talzin but still brought Maul back to her as if there was some larger, unexplained plan. It does seem like there is some sort of spell bound loyalty to me there that causes Savage not to see he's a puppet and a lacky. I feel like if he woke up he would try to challenge Maul again.
     
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  17. Convor

    Convor Jedi Knight star 2

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    >fake nightsister abs
    >DAT NOSE

    0/10 would not bang
     
  18. LandoThe CapeCalrissian

    LandoThe CapeCalrissian Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Id like to see General Krell and Savage go head to head.
     
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  19. Sitara

    Sitara Jedi Master star 3

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    Krell would destroy him.
     
  20. Vialco

    Vialco Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yeah no.
     
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  21. ImNotAStarWarsFanboy

    ImNotAStarWarsFanboy Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    07jonesj Savage has a present for you!

    [​IMG]
     
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  22. 07jonesj

    07jonesj Jedi Master star 4

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  23. ImNotAStarWarsFanboy

    ImNotAStarWarsFanboy Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    A-HA!!!!!!!!!! I knew you didn't really like him!!!
     
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  24. 07jonesj

    07jonesj Jedi Master star 4

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    I like him, not like him! :p
     
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  25. ImNotAStarWarsFanboy

    ImNotAStarWarsFanboy Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I don't understand your distinction. They are one in the same when it comes to Randy.
     
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