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Full Series Season 5 [[(major spoilers & video clips!!!)]]

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by Coric, Sep 2, 2012.

  1. ImNotAStarWarsFanboy

    ImNotAStarWarsFanboy Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Savage from day 1 was intended to be Maul's lacky.
     
  2. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Which is pathetic because they could have done more with him than that.

    He could have been in a constant rage against the Jedi for killing his brother and be so dead-set on revenge that he'll join literally anyone willing to fight them.
     
  3. ImNotAStarWarsFanboy

    ImNotAStarWarsFanboy Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Oh don't get me started. This is why I love Randy. One of the reasons anyway. He had such potential. But stupid ****ing Katie Lucas squandered him and made him everyone's bitch.
     
  4. darthzac14

    darthzac14 Jedi Master star 4

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    What planet was Clovis senator?
     
  5. Dan_Grievous_Tikkes_Fan

    Dan_Grievous_Tikkes_Fan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Scipio....
     
  6. darthzac14

    darthzac14 Jedi Master star 4

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    ok, i was thinking Cato Neimoidia and has a huge revelation about cato neimoidia in the Ahsoka arc having something to do with Clovis
     
  7. fistofan1

    fistofan1 Jedi Master star 4

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    This. I was hoping there would be more insight into his mind. I mean, there has to be some conflict between the man he used to be and the monster he is now. Now, it looks like he's going to be a mindless sidekick until he dies.
     
  8. TaradosGon

    TaradosGon Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    They set up the character like he was some tragic victim. An individual that is looking after his weaker brother, to get him through the trials alive. Then he is turned into a monster and forced to kill his brother mercilessly. He is then abused by both Asajj and Dooku, and finally seems to come to his senses in the confrontation with them, breaking free of Asajj's control. He then goes back to Talzin to ask for help in protecting himself against Asajj, Dooku and the Jedi. She tells him to seek Maul out.

    He had clearly defined enemies and had suffered tragedy. The door was wide open for development, but instead of learning how to protect himself from any of the three established enemies (Dooku, Asajj and the Jedi), he instead just becomes a lackey that is going to help Maul take over the Galaxy... why? Where did that ambition come from? It had nothing to do with his development in the Nightsisters arc where he was victimized and wanted protection. Now he just went back to being a monster and is in no way better off than had he just remained with Dooku or Asajj. But hey, it's his BROTHER!!!111!!1!!!

    I hated the idea of Savage as a stupid stand-in for Maul, and thought the spoilers regarding the Nightsisters sounded like bad fanfiction (Maul's face in a crystal ball? [face_sick]). But then I saw Nightsisters and liked the character. I thought he had potential and I thought the obvious course of action would be that Maul would be in hiding, horrified of facing the consequences for his failure, and that he would train Savage, but make the same mistakes Dooku and Asajj made, provoking Savage's anger and getting himself killed. And then Savage would re-enter the picture and face Asajj and Dooku and the Jedi and become a major player.

    Instead he's just a lackey. They threw his development out the window in favor of Maul. And apparently there are no real consequences to being cut in half and going insane for 10 years that a convenient plot device like magic can't fix. Maul just kind of jumps right back into the swing of things with no real concern being given to how the galaxy has changed in 10 years. And Savage goes from a powerful monster that can overpower Dooku, Anakin, Asajj and Obi-Wan when provoked to rage to...? The thought seemed like it was going to be that Maul would teach him to focus his rage and power... but no... Maul remains stronger and, if anything, Savage seems weaker than he was...

    The execution of the Maul episodes have been extremely well done IMO. But when I think of all the missed opportunities and how they just may as well have swept the Nightsisters arc under the rug, it's just soooo stupid. There's nothing Maul is doing that they could not have used Savage for.

    It could have been that Vizsla takes Savage under his protection in an effort to use him, only for Savage to become progressively smarter and learn how to outplay those that would control him.
     
  9. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Savage didn't say Brother in the new episode :p
     
  10. The Shadow Emperor

    The Shadow Emperor Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Well he only said about twenty words as it is.
     
  11. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    yea
     
  12. darthcaedus1138

    darthcaedus1138 Force Ghost star 5

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    So it's confirmed that there's only 20 episodes this season?
     
  13. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    yep
     
  14. darthcaedus1138

    darthcaedus1138 Force Ghost star 5

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    Wow. So I guess that really messes up the scheduling thing (seeing as they make, what, 24 episodes a season and we normally only see 22)?
     
  15. Zabrak 2

    Zabrak 2 Jedi Padawan star 2

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    So we got two clips from Season 6 and part of Season 6 in the trailer and is it March 1 or March 2?
     
  16. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I really liked Savage myself when he was first introduced. He had alot of potential as a really tragic character. He may have looked 'savage' but certainly didn't seem like it when he was going all out to protect his brother Feral during Ventress's selection trials. Its incredible sad that Savage ends up under a spell that turns him mindless and kills his brother. I've wonder if he's ever even woken up from that spell, thus he is always a mindless monster easily controlled by a master whether its Ventress, Talzin, or Maul. He smashes stuff and kills peoples. That's it. Its hard to tell if Maul cares about him. He'll probably go out that way. I'm hoping TCW will pull an Envy and he'll meet his end sympathetically. However there was alot more potential there and it sucks it got pushed aside so Maul can take center stage.
     
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  17. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    yea, the clips from S6 is the Clovis Arc and March 3 is the Season Finale in the US and, March 2 for the Season Finale in Canada
     
  18. Zabrak 2

    Zabrak 2 Jedi Padawan star 2

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    A Sunday Heck No.
     
  19. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    You got a source for March 3rd?
     
  20. Zabrak 2

    Zabrak 2 Jedi Padawan star 2

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    No Darth Vader said it was March 3rd for US.
    and they put Rex on the who will fall list.
     
  21. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    LOL, Ahsoka is on that list as well. =X
     
  22. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    March seems pretty damn early for a season finale.
     
  23. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I may be in flat out denial but I'm going to wait and see. I want something official. If I recall correctly the Ahsoka arc was the last one was info off twitter from like Brent Friedman or something like that. I want Dave freaking Filoni's word of god on what the hell is going on with the schedule.
     
  24. Zabrak 2

    Zabrak 2 Jedi Padawan star 2

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    I DONT WANT CLOVIS IN SEASON 6 CN!
     
  25. Zabrak 2

    Zabrak 2 Jedi Padawan star 2

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    I WANTED THIS
    1. A War On Two Fronts
    2. Front Runners
    3. The Soft War
    4. Tipping Points
    5. An Old Friend
    6. Rise of Clovis
    7. Crisis at the Heart
    8. Secret Weapons
    9. A Sunny Day in the Void
    10. Missing in Action
    11. Point of No Return
    12. Revial
    13. Eminence
    14. Shades of Reason
    15. The Lawless
    16. Sabatoge
    17. The Jedi Who Knew Too Much
    18. To Catch A Jedi
    19. The Wrong Jedi
    20. EXTRA ARC
    21. EXTRA ARC
    22. EXTRA ARC

    Season 6
    1. The Gathering
    2. A Test of Strength
    3. Bound for Rescue
    4. A Necessary Bond
    how about that CN!
    oh and sorry for the double post.