Discussion in 'San Francisco, CA' started by JedHead1, Jan 24, 2010.
Yes, that's correct.
I have a question on scheduling. Miana stated earlier that nominations for council would be extended until midnight, Feb 7 (tonight). Am I correct in assuming that the voting period comes after that? What is the schedule and deadline for the voting part of the process?
Correct. You guys still have until midnight to do the yes/no voting on the CR, then after midnight, voting for Council will begin.
Votes, just like the CR vote, need to be PMed to Halibut, and you will have a week to do so.
if we already voted for council do we have to vote again since it didn't start yet?
I'll have Hal answer that.
no, you will not need to send again
Is the deadline for Council Voting Sunday Feb 14th, midnight? I just want to send out a voting message to our members and make it clear what the deadline is to now PM the votes in.
I have send Halibut my vote for the 3 council members and ofcourse Racheal as CR. I have send all 4 votes together at one time.Hope I did it right, all togther I mean.
That's probably OK - I'm sure he can keep track. Voting for Rachel ended last Sunday or Saturday though. Voting for Council started afterward. So either you were too late for vote for Rachel, or started voting early for council
It's all good
are the results in yet? who are the winners?
Annoyingly we have a tie at the moment. So if anyone else wants to submit a vote, that would really help me out!
In the event of a tie , what role does a CR play?
If there aren't any additional votes, how will we handle it? Would we have a second, run off vote between the people specific to the tie? Is there a chance a run off could make a difference, or is the situation such the we would get the same result? Is it just two people who are tied?
We have two definites, and the third position is tied. From the way the votes went, a re-run between those 2 would still be a tie
My 3-word solution: paper, rock , scizzors
Well, it's up to Rachel ultimately. Here are some ideas I'd like to propose:
1) Let us know who the two people were who tied. We could send out one last reminder to the eligible voters explaining there was a tie and if they want to vote to help break the tie get in your vote by X date.
2) Our charter states that there should be a minimum of 3 council seats - and should be 10% of the membership number. Right now our active voting membership number is 23 so technically, the 3 seats we have now fits the numbers in our charter. However, this club is for fun, yadda yadda... will it kill anyone if we prematurely add a 4th seat to council? Just let all 4 people be on council and we are done. No competition, nobody has to feel left out. Everyone wins.
Huh. I see your problem. What is the standard process in these cases? You mentioned hoping for more votes- were there eligible voters who didn't vote? Should we contact them individually and ask them to vote? Or alternatively, as Tom asked, does the CR decide, maybe together with the other two council members?
According to the SFFF charter, "If there is another tie in voting on a measure or if the vote itself it too trivial to even bring up to waste time voting during a meeting the SFFF Council will then vote amongst themselves to pass or deny a measure which will be the final say."
However, this is talking about measures, not voting for the council positions themselves. I'm not sure whether this should apply to this situation or not; it seems odd. Maybe Halibut's idea votes? But then, how to ensure that is fair? If there is more than one person who didn't vote, and they have different opinions, should we try to get a vote from them all? Otherwise the first additional person to vote would break the tie, which could be rather random.
I'd say definitely shoot out the message to everyone reminding them that they need to vote, give that a few days, and hope someone votes to make it simple. However, coming up with option #2 is probably a good idea as well.
I was about to shoot out a message via the yahoo groups, but wanted to run it by tatooinepadme first since she is our CR. I also figured we should set a deadline... like maybe this Sunday night? It would be nice to just be able to move on and have the council in place so we can plan our next meeting, etc.
I also wanted her to consider option #2 I mean, it could be the best solution given the vote is so close. There are people who feel strongly that one person should represent them, some feel very strongly about another person. Why tip the scale by just one vote and upset half the club members? Now, if some people are wanting an 'anti so and so vote' I hope they get over that. It's not the spirit of our club to try to vote someone out. We are all club members, it's just a matter of who you want representing your interests in council. So if both people are there then it should resolve that issue in my mind.
"Will this never end?" - C-3PO
I think trying to have some kind of run off first would be a good idea. I am sure there are some people who didn't get to vote. As it has been explained to me, the idea of having an odd number of people on the council was so that if we needed a vote on something, it couldn't result in a tie. But I would like to give everyone a chance to revote before we go making any further changes, especially given how strongly some people feel about this election.
I think if we already voted we do not need to re-vote. Halibut just hopes that if someone didn't vote yet they will take the time to so we won't have a tie.
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